sgt1372
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I’m a fan of both ZT and Spyderco. That’s the first time ZT has ever put ALL of its regular production models on sale.!
On sale where?
I’m a fan of both ZT and Spyderco. That’s the first time ZT has ever put ALL of its regular production models on sale.!
On sale where?
Yep! I stumbled upon a couple crazy good deals.A number of ZT dealers over the Thanksgiving long weekend.
You do realize that us "knife knuts" are only a very small percentage of Spyderco's customer base right? Yes, most of the sprints and exclusives go to people like us but I'm sure a large percentage of standard offerings go to non-knife knuts looking to carry the same good folder every day.For the above poster saying everyone can afford buying one knife: do you honestly believe Spyderco thinks/hopes/expects every knife nut to buy only one knife (theirs or some other bands)?
I have to say as a broke college student who is relegated to the low-mid range end of things its becoming harder and harder to be a Spyderco fanatic.
I don’t mind paying more for sprint runs...
The prices of knives are becoming ridiculous.
You do realize that us "knife knuts" are only a very small percentage of Spyderco's customer base right? Yes, most of the sprints and exclusives go to people like us but I'm sure a large percentage of standard offerings go to non-knife knuts looking to carry the same good folder every day.
That is why I also included the part where I said my perspective is most likely shared by people who aren't as into the hobby or aren't willing to pay huge prices. Knives like the Delica have become entirely outclassed within their price range by other knives in regards to value for materials. You said yourself one of your two purchases was a Delica, I'm sure people buying a few select knives or lower invested collectors is a much larger market than people who buy a bunch.Lots to comment on:
College for me was studying my butt off and trying to scratch through to my next meal, not knife collecting.
Of course you have my understanding. Well, as Austrian I can't say how much factory costs in US or within the worldwide distributor-chain rose, but without any doubt prices for Spyderco knives rose tremendously more than my income ... very sad.Please try to understand that prices go up when costs go up.
I certainly do understand, I am a businessman myself. I’ve voiced my frustration with MAP policies before and another change to it in favor of the dealer I fear may be misguided in their effort to increase their margins as it will decrease volume. Although, maybe that is the intent.
The only reason I even care is because Spyderco is my favorite knife company so whenever I buy somebody a first pocket knife, it’s a Spyderco. Whenever somebody asks me for a good pocket knife recommendation, it’s a Spyderco. It’s becoming harder and harder to find a model that the average person who isn’t a pocket knife fanatic can afford.
That is why I also included the part where I said my perspective is most likely shared by people who aren't as into the hobby or aren't willing to pay huge prices. Knives like the Delica have become entirely outclassed within their price range by other knives in regards to value for materials. You said yourself one of your two purchases was a Delica, I'm sure people buying a few select knives or lower invested collectors is a much larger market than people who buy a bunch.
In this thread I'm seeing a lot of "heh well i guess I'll just have to tighten my belt" type of posts but you have to understand that a large percentage of people either don't have the interest or values to vote with their wallet. If they see a Spyderco on amazon and a competing brand like cold steel or kizer with a knife that's cheaper and has better materials they will surely buy the cheaper knife in most cases. The majority of people aren't a small dedicated group like you have buying everything regardless of the context.
I get spyderco needs to make money but I'm just questioning if this will have a positive impact in the long run. Its a tricky situation for sure but there has to be a better way.
So then whats the point in the increases? Wouldn't the base MAP implementation plus the yearly increases we've had already be good enough?The MAP increase has the objective of removing free market price competition amongst dealers and guaranteeing them a specific margin over wholesale. Spyderco gets their wholesale price no matter what.