Ancient Aliens Anyone?
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Are WE Reptilians???
yes, we as mammals are the direct descendants of reptiles. we are NOT descendent from dinosaurs, but branched from earlier reptiles, as did the dinosaurs. birds are the descendants of dinosaurs. which is why they taste just like chicken.
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which is why they taste just like chicken.
But did they come before the egg?
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I watch V some but only to catch a glimpse of the babe Morena Baccarin for a little while because I just think she is so hot! I recall that little guy that built Corral Castle being scared by two thugs but not the details. I remember he picked up and moved the castle and all its contents after building it. As I recall it was due to finding out he made a mistake in where it should be to be on the correct ley line of the earth grid or something or maybe the grid line shifted I don't recall it all now. It may have had something to do with the neighborhood too though. We will probably never know.
You know I was just telling someone else. I'm usually very conservative in my thinking but on some subjects I'm just bold enough to come right out and say I really don't know and thats the point. People only think they know most of the time and usually they think that based on belief systems that are unsubstantiated. Most of the time the belief's they hold are as far out as any we've been talking about and in some ways what we are sharing here in this thread is far easier to believe to me. Just because you have heard it all your life and been told it was so for so long does not mean the people that told you all that really ever checked into it or know anything at all about what they claim. Chances are they probably grew up being told the same thing and just think thats how it is based on a life time of hearing it. That old saying that if you tell a lie long enough people will eventually believe it seems to hold true at times. Still though I'm the first to admit that people that live in glass houses should not throw stones so you have to be prepared at all times for another perspective and if it makes more sense than yours maybe its time to look into it.
I had this psychic tell me once that she 'knew' what was on the other side and all about UFOs and so on. I didn't pay for this information or anything. She claimed to be a psychic and could see my 'aura' as she started informing me of what color it was that morning. She started a chat with me at Starbucks standing there in line one morning of all places. Eventually we sat together briefly and then walked outside as I was leaving. I'm like uh huh sure you do sister! And when I asked her how she knows all this she proceeds to tell me, 'because a friend that died in a car accident a while back had told her so.' I asked her, so was this friend pretty smart and pretty much aware in life? She says, no not really. In life he drank a lot and died from his own stupidity from drinking and driving. A mistake that he is now paying for by being my guide she tells me. I see, I said to her and then I asked her something that I think made her upset with me. So, if we suppose for a moment that Okay your friend is your guide now and there is life after the body and you are in touch with him for the sake of argument and he can tell you about these aliens, the life we live and so on and if he wasn't all that smart in life and in fact pretty stupid at times as you say, then what makes you think just because he left his body and is now in spirit that anything has changed? Does it really mean that just because he is dead that he is suddenly wiser? If he was still alive telling you these things would you believe it anymore as fact then or is there something making it more credible to you now just because he's dead? For that matter do you really know its your friend and not some imposter? I don't think so she tells me. Again, I believe at this point she was pretty much ready to head out as I was a turn off because I didn't give her quite the oohs and ahhs I think she expected but you know its like anything else for me. Have the balls to ask. Thats all I'm doing really and by delving into all I can find and reading it I find that I can pick apart a lot of it and the stuff that remains is worth talking about you know? I don't know so I don't pretend I do. When I do I'll let you guys know all about it though.
Anyway, thats my feelings on some of what people think they know. You didn't really ask for all that but I wanted to share it. Thanks for your comments. Lycosa according to my bed time reading last night, David Icke says we all have reptilian brains and they are the most primitive parts of our brain. We can see the reptilian in all of us by what he calls the 'reactive mind' because that is what people do when they are only using their reptile portion of their brains they are reacting and not reasoning their way through something with their higher mind. Again interesting. I do kind of find some of the things this guy presents to be surprisingly accurate in my mind. He brings up how the government works and it does indeed seem to play out that way at times with the scenario David presents, problem, reaction, solution. The way he presents it, the government wants to implement this new program of control on the masses. They know they can't just do it or the people will have a cow so they create a problem to make the people react. The people react usually in fear at this new threat or problem that the government created mind you. Then the good government people come up with a solution which of course is the one they wanted to institute anyway but needed justification. A justification which the people just gave them in their reaction as they shout, do something! You have to stop this blah blah blah so they institute a new program that they wanted to do all along and then when it goes south and the people hate it they turn around and say, "BUT ITS WHAT YOU WANTED!"
Brilliant this guy! I'm enjoying his stuff tremendously. Can't say I've gotten around the queen mother shape shifting reptilian thing but you know.
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Just read about the Nasca in Nat Geo as i was waiting for some testing in the hospital today.
Apparently, those drawings can be seen from the ground, or from the surrounding hills. The theories presented in the article (March 2010 issue) indicate that they were likely used in religious rituals. There is evidence of a lot of foot traffic on those paths.
The author reported that the idea that the drawings could only be observed from the air as "myths", an that the idea that they were created with the help of aliens as "silly", or something like that.
It was an interesting read. It was depressing though, to see how folks used to sacrifice other humans in order to convince their "gods" to give them water. I'm sure we are not that different in our culture. We have our ways of making folks conform, and of sacrificing for the "greater good".
Just thought I would pass that along.
Open mindedness is a hard thing to come by. Who really knows their blind spots? Who is the free thinker that can guarantee that their own freedom of thought is truly free?
everybody accepts some things by "faith", whether they understand that, or admit, or not.
(as Bugs Bunny once said, "Ain't I a stinker?!)
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Apparently, those drawings can be seen from the ground, or from the surrounding hills. The theories presented in the article (March 2010 issue) indicate that they were likely used in religious rituals. There is evidence of a lot of foot traffic on those paths.
The author reported that the idea that the drawings could only be observed from the air as "myths", an that the idea that they were created with the help of aliens as "silly", or something like that.
It was an interesting read. It was depressing though, to see how folks used to sacrifice other humans in order to convince their "gods" to give them water. I'm sure we are not that different in our culture. We have our ways of making folks conform, and of sacrificing for the "greater good".
Just thought I would pass that along.
Open mindedness is a hard thing to come by. Who really knows their blind spots? Who is the free thinker that can guarantee that their own freedom of thought is truly free?
everybody accepts some things by "faith", whether they understand that, or admit, or not.
(as Bugs Bunny once said, "Ain't I a stinker?!)
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Just read about the Nasca in Nat Geo as i was waiting for some testing in the hospital today.
Apparently, those drawings can be seen from the ground, or from the surrounding hills. The theories presented in the article (March 2010 issue) indicate that they were likely used in religious rituals. There is evidence of a lot of foot traffic on those paths.
The author reported that the idea that the drawings could only be observed from the air as "myths", an that the idea that they were created with the help of aliens as "silly", or something like that.
It was an interesting read. It was depressing though, to see how folks used to sacrifice other humans in order to convince their "gods" to give them water. I'm sure we are not that different in our culture. We have our ways of making folks conform, and of sacrificing for the "greater good".
Just thought I would pass that along.
Open mindedness is a hard thing to come by. Who really knows their blind spots? Who is the free thinker that can guarantee that their own freedom of thought is truly free?
everybody accepts some things by "faith", whether they understand that, or admit, or not.
(as Bugs Bunny once said, "Ain't I a stinker?!)
Tom
I think the climate changed on the people and probably due to their use of soil and cutting trees and stuff like that. I always thought the drawings of monkeys, spiders, hummingbirds and other things were pleas to the gods to bring back all those things that used to be there that left with the climate changes. It may not jive with the geographic records for when that occurred though so its just something I kind of put together in my own mind.
There was a segment of one show on the TV and its on youtube also where there was a war and troops were landing on the strips they made bringing supplies and other things that the natives there rather liked and when the war was over the natives started building mock up air planes out of logs and branches and it was their only way of thinking of how to plea with the 'gods' in those flying machines to bring back the free stuff and food so it struck me if one native village does something like that it would make sense that maybe the Nazca natives did the same thing making a plea or request to the gods to bring the items they are showing toward the sky.
Here is the video I spoke of. Watch this guys. Interesting stuff. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFaDk0Lxg2k
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it was only a small war, with a little number: WWII.
they're known as cargo cults. some places they're mad at the gods for not answering and kill white people to punish the aloof gods for not dropping parachutes loaded with free goodies. over here in the UK people also worship the same gods of free giveaways. they believe if they put the gods into a building in london called 'parliament' the chief god called Gordon will effortlessly give them stuff from heaven without them having to do anything. he is being challenged by another new god called nick who represents a tiny but vocal minority that think they can give away even more without any work on the peoples part. their worshippers are called socialists. the one human that can't see the god emperor's new clothes is scorned as a reactionary conservative and laughed at by the story tellers who spread tales over magic boxes and worship the gods of progressive free stuff...
i suspect if there is any truth in the UFO/Alien thing, that it is our descendants coming back thru time to study their primitive animal roots.
tardis anyone?
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All I can tell you is *whoever* they are, they have no compunctions about causing panic in airspace and endangering aircraft; they may have/have caused numerous crashes, as well.
They seem to take human specimens with about the same concern we would have about snagging a pinecone from someone else's world.
Rightfully and with care we should be watching the skies.
Timothy Good is some excellent reading, as well as Richard Hall.
http://www.timothygood.co.uk/
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I agree Mike. Hey if you guys unfamiliar with some of the stuff coming out in the last few years want to catch up some and blow your minds watch this series of videos here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gKmjv0pleg&feature=related
Pay particular attention to video number 7. I have never seen the equal to the sightings presented in this video. I really don't know how you can deny there is something unknown here but go for it skeptics. Go ahead and convince me they are birds.
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Pay particular attention to video number 7. I have never seen the equal to the sightings presented in this video. I really don't know how you can deny there is something unknown here but go for it skeptics. Go ahead and convince me they are birds.
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I agree Mike. Hey if you guys unfamiliar with some of the stuff coming out in the last few years want to catch up some and blow your minds watch this series of videos here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gKmjv0pleg&feature=related
Pay particular attention to video number 7. I have never seen the equal to the sightings presented in this video. I really don't know how you can deny there is something unknown here but go for it skeptics. Go ahead and convince me they are birds.
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There is certainly something unknown, however, it is almost certainly of human origins. The symbols are well known human forms, there is no indication of anything alien content or perspective. If the quality is improving it is probably due to advances in portable computing and GPS devices. If the aliens want to leave a message, there is no need to trash some farmer's field, they could just fly over the nearest city in broad daylight and wave.
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Yeah I don't know. Maybe. I hope so anyway. If not human it could be that we really need to take Hawking's advice to heart and fast. I wasn't talking about the crop circles although thats the title of this series. I am not all that interested in crop circles to be honest with you. The real interest for me was the UFO sightings in video 7 and if you think its man after that set of remarkable footage of hovering craft take a gander at video 15 and scroll later toward the end there for like the last five or more minutes I think where the retired military guy with the gray beard is talking to Larry King about an incident he was involved in. If its humans doing some of the things shown this guy didn't know about it and neither did his superiors. Again high strangeness but I certainly hope it is some compartmentalized group of our guys behind it.
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We cannot hope to guess exactly what the real crop circles mean. I would like to think it is a message of some kind. When mathematicians discover previously unknown mathematical formulae in them, and they do, then it is possible that they are messages of some kind. But like I mentioned before, two guys with planks cannot replicate a real crop circle. Unbroken stalks, signs of superheating by microwaves, both inside the plants and underneath the soil.
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I wonder if our speculation is the most important aspect with this train of thought. And if our speculation will be the cloaking wonder that an alien presence can use to enable our discourse?
Cool to hear some used giant kites in time past.
Time and space generate so many wonderful possibilities in relation to invention.
Thanks for the good information, folks
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Mark
Cool to hear some used giant kites in time past.
Time and space generate so many wonderful possibilities in relation to invention.
Thanks for the good information, folks
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Mark
Those two "confessors" definitely had the ring of untruth about them; a sloppy demonstration, to be sure. Of course, that wasn't the only, "hoax of a hoax" going around at the time.
The circles, as I understand, have continued to appear since then, and have taken on a shocking complexity. No one, as of this time, has been apprehended or identified. However, a lot of the newer, more complex designs display some obvious human creativity, including pop culture references. Either some very clever humans are making them, or the aliens have a WEIRD sense of humor!
I hitched a ride with a teaser.
"Teaser"?
You know: rich kids with nothing to do. They go out to planets that haven't made interstellar contact yet, find some poor soul whom no one's ever going to believe, and strut up and down in front of him, making, 'meep, meep' noises."
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Danny, I promise you ... here and now ... that I will never, ever argue with a fossilized turd.
Again.
Not picking on any one individual here, but to get properly politically correct with the term, "fossilized turd," from now on the term used should be, "Coprolite," as that's the scientific name for any, "fossilized turd," up to and including Tyrannosaurus Rex's output, that of course has been fossilized for eons now. Remember now, "Coprolite" -Is- The Politically Correct term! Really!:thumbup:
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Any of you guys ever read World Explorers magazine? Whatever happened to them? Got some neat books out of their catalog, including Maps of the Ancient Sea Kings.
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Well first of all bcm please permit me to welcome you to the H.I. Cantina where all sorts of odd, weird, and often downright silly things are cussed, discussed, and oft times just picked too pieces fer the fun of it.:thumbup:
I'd also like to say this was a great post for someone new to the Cantina!:thumbup:
Now I'm gonna have to check around and see where I can find a copy of the book you're recommending to us, ""Behold A Pale Horse" written by William C. Cooper" as your book report has done what all book reports should do and that's getting others interested enough to read the particular book.
You've also made reference to a few other posts where you've made, what I consider, some great points and I for one would really like to see you stay around.:thumbup:`
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I have a book by that title by Charles Hapgood as I recall. Some of the ancient maps, some of which Christopher Columbus was supposedly in possession of, were quite accurate and detailed areas quite clearly that have been under miles thick ice for 10,000 plus years so they are thought to have been made when the land was still visible since we could not even confirm how accurate they actually were until the advent of ground penetrating radar to see the details under the ice. Its been pretty much confirmed that ancient anglo explorers traveled to America before Columbus and the evidence is in the Rune stones littered all over as well as the ancient writings including those deciphered on the rune stones themselves. There was just a long documentary on this on NatGeo not long ago.
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I haven't researched it as yet, too many interests, too little time, but there's evidence that some of the Oriental countries, most say China, visited the west coast of North America thousands of years ago. The evidence being in the form of round flat stones that have square, IIRC, hole in their centers. IMO it's the scientists or whoever has the latest axe to grind trying to prove that us ndns came over the Bering Strait's land bridge.
STR I recall that documentary supposed to be on but I evidently missed it and I really wanted to see it. I've seen Von Daniken's take on the Peri Reis map as well as others' references to it as well as seeing a reproduction and to me it's still fascinating as all get out!!!!:thumbup:
However on the other side of the coin we get this.... http://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/pseudosc/piriries.htm
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