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Antique Winchester Knives and Company History 1919-1942

Discussion in 'Traditional Folders and Fixed Blades' started by MerryMadMonk, Feb 17, 2020.

  1. Cooter Brown

    Cooter Brown

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    May 22, 2011
    One of my favorite knives ever posted here!
     
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  2. willard0341

    willard0341 Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 18, 2013
    Amazing pieces of history, thanks to everyone posting and sharing
     
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  3. Gevonovich

    Gevonovich Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 17, 2011
    E.C. Simmons wee pruner

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  4. mckgreg

    mckgreg Basic Member Basic Member

    Nov 18, 2001
    My Winchester Dog Leg Jack. Notice the clip secondary blade. There is something avid Winchester collectors look for in the tang stamp.
    Wish I could remember what that is. It seems to separate the more desirable pieces from the others.

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  5. Luger1952

    Luger1952 Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 12, 2012
    Al, great idea for a thread and great information/photos! Beautiful knives fellow collectors:thumbsup: Here is a an original Winchester big coke bottle folding Hunter model 1920.
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  6. MerryMadMonk

    MerryMadMonk Platinum Member Platinum Member

    May 22, 2011
    Thanks, Charlie! Beautiful examples!

    I know Charlie has seen this, but for those who may not have... below is the patent information on the punch designed by William Carman, one of the owners of Napanoch Knife Company. The earliest Winchesters have the Carman Punch. At some point Winchester went with a different (easier to make?) punch.

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  7. MerryMadMonk

    MerryMadMonk Platinum Member Platinum Member

    May 22, 2011
    Winchester 4950 Camp Knife. Top one has the Carman/Napanoch punch and the bottom one does not.
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  8. MerryMadMonk

    MerryMadMonk Platinum Member Platinum Member

    May 22, 2011
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  9. MerryMadMonk

    MerryMadMonk Platinum Member Platinum Member

    May 22, 2011
    @Luger1952 Beautiful 1920, Lloyd! It doesn't get much better than that!

    @mckgreg What's the pattern number of your Dog Leg Jack? It is beautiful. Re: tang stamps. It might be that all blades are stamped vs just the master blade.
     
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  10. george65

    george65

    585
    Dec 21, 2008
    wee little pen knife 2902 at 2 5/8"


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  11. Augie

    Augie Gold Member Gold Member

    Aug 23, 2014
    Nice Winchesters everyone and thanks for all the history.

    I have a few, here is a dogleg that looks pretty close to Dan's KeenKutter.


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    Ladies or boys pruner shown next to standard size pruners of the time.


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    And a large jack shown with a Challenge jack.


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  12. Old Hunter

    Old Hunter Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 12, 2012
    E.C. Simmons, St. Louis MO Jackknife - very similar construction to Augie's Winchester Jackknife. OH
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  13. SteveC

    SteveC Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 13, 2017
    So what do you guys think, is this Wards Cattle knife made by Winchester ?


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  14. MerryMadMonk

    MerryMadMonk Platinum Member Platinum Member

    May 22, 2011
    @george65 Nice little senator pen! Factory edges and etch to boot!

    @Augie John, those are beauties! That big Jack is something else!

    @Old Hunter Another great Jack! Can definitely see the similarities to John's.

    @SteveC I don't know for certain, but I lean toward: Yes. It sure looks a lot like this Winchester 3950 Cattle Knife, 3 5/8 inches...
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  15. SteveC

    SteveC Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 13, 2017
    Certainly looks just like yours Al , same jigging as well. I read that the shape of the spey blade is a good indicator .
     
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  16. mike Berkovitch

    mike Berkovitch Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 15, 2007
    Winchester
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  17. Augie

    Augie Gold Member Gold Member

    Aug 23, 2014
    I forgot about the Wards knives, here's another one, this one in stag.


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  18. SteveC

    SteveC Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 13, 2017
    That's a great looking knife Augie !
     
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  19. mckgreg

    mckgreg Basic Member Basic Member

    Nov 18, 2001
    I think the stamp on both blades is what the separation is. Can't find a pattern number on this knife. It doesn't appear to have been cobbled.
    Great thread !!
    I was on a dogleg kick for a while and bought a few of the old guys to use. Couldn't bring myself to use that Winchester tho.
    Should have a Keen Kutter around here some place.
    Greg
     
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  20. herder

    herder Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 24, 2007
    MerryMadMonk, well presented theme with some wonderful information and pictures by others as well!!!
     

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