Cold Steel Just Dropped A Salvo

Discussion in 'General Knife Discussion' started by goldie, Aug 7, 2020.

  1. goldie

    goldie

    Feb 18, 2000
    I just saw on the CS forums that the A2 versions of the trailmaster recon scout and others that were planned are not going to happen,so theyve changed the steel to what id refer to as Bud K steel; 4034; ugh.That is not what i was expecting.glad i have one in carbon v and a recon scout in carbon v as well. wouldve like one of each in A2. They might as well put Gil Hibbens logo on it if thats the steel theyre going to use.
     
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  2. DocJD

    DocJD

    Jan 29, 2016
    :mad::thumbsdown::thumbsdown: I'm just hoping this never actually gets to market . Or that it's all some kind of cruel hoax .

    :eek::poop: Terrible idea , IMO , and nearly every comment on the CS Forum seems to agree .
     
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  3. goldie

    goldie

    Feb 18, 2000
    Like someone mentioned,itll turn the trailmaster into the Mtech 151 bowie only it will be 140 instead of 35-40 ugh...
     
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  4. Insipid Moniker

    Insipid Moniker

    Feb 28, 2011
    Heck, I'd be happier if they used the SK5 they have in other knives or solid, simple 1095.
     
  5. Planterz

    Planterz Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 26, 2004
    That's just hilarious. A bummer for the fans, I guess, but hilarious to me.
     
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  6. Mitchell Knives

    Mitchell Knives Knifemaker Moderator

    May 21, 2000
    This is a terrible idea on the part of Cold Steel.

    Ultimately, it doesn't really matter because there are plenty of other factory and custom options available.
     
  7. gazz98

    gazz98 Gold Member Gold Member

    Sep 3, 2008
    I had never heard of 4034 knife steel until this post. Bleh.
     
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  8. MayHemAndHaw

    MayHemAndHaw

    225
    May 5, 2020
    So it's 420J2 by a different name..that's a shame. CS has always had goofy marketing but now the knives are going goofy too.
     
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  9. Boru13

    Boru13 Super Moderator Staff Member Super Mod Moderator

    Apr 25, 2000
  10. GIRLYmann

    GIRLYmann

    Nov 7, 2005
    i can only think that its a drastic cost lowering measure?
    great ! they've finally realized just how
    over inflatedly expensive they stuff has been of late.
    i can agree with the lowering of msrp.
    but not at the expense of edge holding
    or maybe they havre worked out some
    secret hardening process for cheaper
    steels to make it a worthwhile attempt
    at broading or at least to sustain the
    present course of its market
    trajectory? really the sign of the times...
     
  11. pnsxyr

    pnsxyr Gold Member Gold Member

    Aug 29, 2013
    That seems like a VERY strange alternative to A2...if they can't source A2, why not 5160 or 52100?
     
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  12. goldie

    goldie

    Feb 18, 2000
    4034 ! That is a massive downgrade.(GIRLYman) what if street price is still 135-150 ? it would have to go down in price just as the steel quality.40-60.00 at best i cant even imagine it.Remember, this affects the laredo bowie,natchez bowie and i think the kukri.
     
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  13. not2sharp

    not2sharp Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 29, 1999
    They may as well go ahead and make them in Communist China. I think Mtech can produce them for them; their resume says they have the experience.

    They are probably thinking they can hang the blister packs at Walmart and sell a pile of them for $30-50.00 during the holidays.

    n2s
     
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  14. GIRLYmann

    GIRLYmann

    Nov 7, 2005
    uh, come to think if it, that's probably right.
    there might not be a price drop for new stuff.
    but the old ones in the inventory
    would have to be cleared
    and that might go cheap !
    stranger things have happened :)
     
  15. whp

    whp

    Apr 26, 2009
    I had finally gotten around to accepting s35vn as a replacement for cts xhp in the folders.

    The difference in steel cost can t be that big a percentage of the cost of the knife.
     
  16. dirc

    dirc

    Jan 31, 2018
    4034 should be fairly similar to 420hc, it's cleaner in the sense it has much less there, but the lack of vanadium is unfortunate...
    for a hard use knife, it should be great since its tough... but the problem will be edge retention

    CS would be waaaay better off going 14c28n -> also stainless, tough, and much much better edge retention (and also possible to keep costs down like 4034)

    (and I agree with other comments, if they wanted to use a non-stainless steel, the best choice is 52100, or sk5 for toughness)
     
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  17. Mick Boardman

    Mick Boardman Gold Member Gold Member

    267
    Jul 15, 2020
    Bud K steel, that cracked me up, and I know what he is saying, 3’ swords for $59 with free shipping, lol.
     
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  18. DocT

    DocT

    Mar 25, 2012
    52100 would have been a good substitute, but this choice is nonsense.
     
  19. DocJD

    DocJD

    Jan 29, 2016
    Yeah , as a fan it's pretty sad . :(

    But also sad because I've seen so many previously decent companies go down this road . :confused:
     
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  20. dirc

    dirc

    Jan 31, 2018
    everyone should remember this is not unique to CS...
    kershaw now has over a dozen models with 3cr13... which is far worse than 4034

    consider that?
     
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