Cold Steel Just Dropped A Salvo

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I guess they decided to switch to mall ninjas as their main target audience.

That'd also explain videos recorded in BDSM dungeon.

You can check out CS forums if you want to see more, but long story short - they are getting roasted by their own fans on their own forum.

I used to be a fan of them but this completley put me off. There are other brands who put their customer first.
 

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Carbon V steel is whatever steel Cold Steel wants to call Carbon V. It's a trademark, not a type of steel. In it's time the original composition Carbon V was a good steel with a good heat treat. When Cold Steel was no longer able to source it, they substituted another steel & called it Carbon V.

The use of 4034 in some of their popular models is sad to see. Are sales off, trying to introduce typically higher end knives to new non-knife-nut buyers at lower prices, or is it just a money grab trying to cash in on their popular models?
According to Mike Stewart, the person who’s company manufactured these knives, Carbon V is the same steel that Case uses.
Case called it CV, I don’t know who makes it so I am sure it is called something different by the manufacturer.
 

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According to Mike Stewart, the person who’s company manufactured these knives, Carbon V is the same steel that Case uses.
Case called it CV, I don’t know who makes it so I am sure it is called something different by the manufacturer.

Case CV and CS Carbon V might at one time have been the same steel (not necessarily at the same time though), but the fact remains that CV has changed over time, as has Carbon V.
 

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Case CV and CS Carbon V might at one time have been the same steel (not necessarily at the same time though), but the fact remains that CV has changed over time, as has Carbon V.
I am sure over the years both companies may have changed suppliers and CV steel looks like a fairly close performer to 420hc on paper.

4034 is a German analog of 420hc.
In my experience CS has done excellent heat treatments for almost every knife I own.

I personally think it is a stupid move to use 4034 in the Trailmaster but I kinda doubt this is the end of the world for Cold Steel.

How many here have used a CS knife in 4034?

I have a Kiridashi that I got in May and used it quite a bit at work.
Once I lowered the angle a bit it has been a great performing knife.
My only complaint is that it doesn’t have a left side clip.

I have a few CS fixed blades, not many compared to folders, so I doubt I would of gotten a Trailmaster in A2 anyway.
But I can understand how those looking forward to that would be pissed.
 

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How many here have used a CS knife in 4034?

I have a Boker in 4034. It's crap. Granted, it's a tiny gent's folder and not a bigass camp knife, but I surely wouldn't want it in a large camp knife either.
 

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I have a Boker in 4034. It's crap. Granted, it's a tiny gent's folder and not a bigass camp knife, but I surely wouldn't want it in a large camp knife either.
That is a shame that you bought a crap knife.

With the Kiridashi I have cut many feet of insulating foam and didn’t have to touch it up during the day.

I wouldn’t want 4034 or 420hc in a large camp knife either.
 
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One big difference in Carbon v is that Dan Maragni came up with the heat treat process for it, which makes a difference.
 
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I had finally gotten around to accepting s35vn as a replacement for cts xhp in the folders.

The difference in steel cost can t be that big a percentage of the cost of the knife.

Changing to a different tier of steel can affect the cost of machining radically, even if the raw material cost isn’t that much of a difference.
 
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All I'm reading here is that I should hurry up and buy a AD-10 before they do something strange with that to.

Well after the first run they switched to a flat grind from the hollow grind. I haven't had the pleasure to use one with a flat grind, but the hollow grind is tough but also has the ability to be a good slicer. I wish my 4max Scout was a hollow grind, but I also appreciate that the flat grind is probably going to be better for chopping things. Compromise, right?
 
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Other companies: "Let's use the newest super steels for our legendary flagships"

Cold Steel: "Let's make flagships out of cheapest stuff we can get "

As someone said, now quality of their knives will finally match the quality of their Secure-ex sheaths.
 
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(Rykjeklut) How about an AD10 in 3cr13 with 410 steel liners and zytel scales ?
It looks like Cold Steel is getting closer and closer to counterfeit knives quality. Soon you won't be able tell the difference between knockoff and real thing, and also, question would be why would you even want the real thing in that case?
 
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Im sure the new 4034 trailmaster will be finished nicely. Talk about polishing a turd.Every thing i see about this steel says low end,entry level;hardly fitting for the trailmaster recon scout laredo or natchez bowie...
 
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Im sure the new 4034 trailmaster will be finished nicely. Talk about polishing a turd.Every thing i see about this steel says low end,entry level;hardly fitting for the trailmaster recon scout laredo or natchez bowie...
If I had money to burn I'd get one just to test it, write a review and roast them completley and try to claim my warranty too.
 

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I am stll waiting on the Woodsman Sax..... Rediculas how long its taking.
 
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