Dagger Ideas?

Ianski

Ianski

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Ok guys! Don't judge, but with the talk on the forums recently about the possibility of a new dagger from our main man Jerry and his kicka$$ team, I let my mind wonder and after a couple too many beers and too much time, I came up with a rough (emphasis on "rough" lol) design of a dagger I though might be cool! Don't judge the crappy MS paint skills, I am not a professional lol! Let me know what you guys think!
P.S. this blade does bare some similarities to a blade I've always found attractive from another manufacture, but with a Busse Combat twist ;)

If anyone else has cool ideas share em! To beer and blades! cheers guys and gals!

 
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Ideally i would wish for another release of BOSC ID, but im in for at least 1 of any kind of Dagger lol the so called TG dagger mentioned a while back would be awsome, or Basically a Mini Gladius (as long as its Proportionally Miniturized (for a lack of a better word)
 
The TG variation or the Gladius variation both sound like they would be pretty awesome!
 
I can see Jerry going for a kris type dagger, simple ancient design with so much edge to work with and shape, that's my uneducated guesstimate anyway.
 
Interesting drawing, but keep in mind that posting a picture of a design assures Jerry won't copy it.
 
Hopefully something slim and compact, similar to the previous dagger, or a Persian type of upswept blade.
 
Hooker said:
Interesting drawing, but keep in mind that posting a picture of a design assures Jerry won't copy it.
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I dunno, the BB13 turned out very similar to the rendering that was a fan creation in the thread.
 
Hooker said:
Interesting drawing, but keep in mind that posting a picture of a design assures Jerry won't copy it.
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Some years ago Jerry posted that he did not want people to post blade rendering ideas. IIRC, it was a question of establishling/protecting design intellectual property. And yet, in the intervening time, he has not chosen to shut down/close/delete any post with design ideas.

Ergo, it is not clear as to what is his current thinking on the concept of open source blade designs.
 
Ian, I admire your creativity and optimism! I am all but certain that we will be seeing a dagger design blade from Busse fairly soon considering all of the context clues here on the forum lately. As for your particular rendering, I have to agree with others and say that I MUCH prefer symmetry with a dagger. It is part of what makes a dagger so beautiful! I think the "easiest" thing for Jerry to do would be to take the TG straight handle and add a 7.5"L/1.5"W dagger blade with fuller. That would be damn awesome!!!
 
DamascusBowie said:
I can see Jerry going for a kris type dagger, simple ancient design with so much edge to work with and shape, that's my uneducated guesstimate anyway.
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As much as a wavy kriss design would be awesome, I feel it would be prohibitively expensive from a manufacturing standpoint. Daggers have been extremely expensive items to begin with, when they have been available, and I would like to be able to afford one.
 
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littlehoot said:
As much as a wavy kriss design would be awesome, I feel it would be prohibitively expensive from a manufacturing standpoint. Daggers have been extremely expensive items to begin with, when they have been available, and I would like to be able to afford one.
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Oh well, maybe so but theres always the chance Jerry might read this as he's pouring his third and just go ahead and make one for me :D
 
resinguy said:
Some years ago Jerry posted that he did not want people to post blade rendering ideas. IIRC, it was a question of establishling/protecting design intellectual property. And yet, in the intervening time, he has not chosen to shut down/close/delete any post with design ideas.

Ergo, it is not clear as to what is his current thinking on the concept of open source blade designs.
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Hmmm, well, I was unaware of that so I hope I haven't broken any rules.

I always thought it was the symmetry of the blade profile that made a knife a dagger, but I guess I learn something new every day!
 
Ianski said:
Hmmm, well, I was unaware of that so I hope I haven't broken any rules.

I always thought it was the symmetry of the blade profile that made a knife a dagger, but I guess I learn something new every day!
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I understand it this way as well.

For example, a unsymmetical blade with a sharpened swedge would NOT be a dagger.
 
littlehoot said:
I understand it this way as well.

For example, a unsymmetical blade with a sharpened swedge would NOT be a dagger.
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I can see how this is a definition.
For me so far it's just a knife designed primarily for stabbing. Edge, no edge symmetrical or not.
But thanks to you I'm checking now what it means. :-D

Either way what in your opinion are those double edged Indian/Persian curved blades, since they aren't really symmetrical.

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From Webster:
: a sharp pointed knife that is used as a weapon
:a short knife used for stabbing

Makes sense. Many rondell daggers have blades whose cross sections are irregular triangles.

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How about the smatchet? Double edged and symmetrical bit is it a dagger?
 
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Like a kriss, or kryss? It has offset symmetry, but is still symmetrical, after a fashion.

Well, in my opinion, a "dagger" is a.blade incorporating several features: symmetrical design, double edges, etc...
 
littlehoot said:
Like a kriss, or kryss? It has offset symmetry, but is still symmetrical, after a fashion.

Well, in my opinion, a "dagger" is a.blade incorporating several features: symmetrical design, double edges, etc...
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Kriss would fall under your definition. I thought of the curve bladed daggers. Due to the curve one side would have less cutting edge than the other.

Then there are T sectioned knives which due to the thick spine are better at penetrating armor and quite bad at cutting. Still a dagger to me if I only go by what it was designed for. Maybe even more of a dagger than some thin and wobbly double edged symetric knife.
 
I'd like to see something like this Swiss dagger, circa 1570):

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Or maybe something similar based on a Team Gemini.
 
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