You da man ! Thanks a lot . I will book mark Kevin Cashen's page. One more question and I will leave ya alone
In your opinion at what point am I wasting my time finish sanding a blade before heat treat?In other words what grit do you take your blades before heat treat. As I am typing this I remembered that you do most or all of your grinding after heat treat.
That can go a few different ways depending on how you are making the knife and what steel you are using.
If you are using steel with mill scale on it you might want to grind it all off... it all depends but remember that part of the steel will not hold an edge.
After heat treat you will need to start at 80-120 grit to remove the decarb on oil hardening steels... or any steel that is heated in a non-inert environment.
Air hardening steels will be packaged in stainless steel wrap first so they do not decarb. (from the high heat needed to austenitize)
Any deep scratch, unchamfered hole, sharp corner or crack can cause a stress riser which may crack when quenched.
Always round everything after removing all burrs... no need to round much, just enough to knock off a perfectly square edge.
I'd say generally you want a nice 220 grit finish on everything... you might as well go to 400 grit and thin with an air hardening steel or as low as a quck finish with a rough scotchbrite belt if you are going for mostly post finishing grinding.
As you mentioned I grind 95% of my knives post heat treat, my pre heat treat finishing all depends on the condition of the steel I am starting with and what I am going for. With a forge finish on 5160 I have to be very careful not to damage the original as made finish... with precision ground tool steel I may have to take the flats up a bit.
----> Warp - I'd say no matter what during heat treat you will get a warp in your steel, it may be incredibly tiny or relatively large.. you will have to grind it out ad you will likely start at a low grit to save time... this is a major factor in finishing! I'd rather "prep" the steel for heat treat (smooth feeling and absolutely no stress risers) than get it completely ready.
----> Edge thickness - has to vary depending on decarb, how stable the steel is (usually slower quenchin steels are more stable) how perfect the edge thickness is... (can go very thin if very even) geometry and more
So keep everything even, never leave a scratch you can hang a fingernail in, chamfer all holes, leave room for grinding away warpage and decarb