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HELP, Found My Folder In A Pile Of Snow, Next Steps?

Discussion in 'General Knife Discussion' started by Sean Price, Feb 4, 2019.

  1. Sean Price

    Sean Price Basic Member Basic Member

    Jun 7, 2012
    Greetings ALL,

    To cut to the chase, I've had this joint for 13 years now, and it even saved my life during an attempted mugging/beatdown and thats not the only time it saved me.. Anyways its comfort and sentimental value here along with protection and survival.

    Last week during that Polar Vortex business that crippled us in the midwest I apparently lost it somewhere in about 18 inches of the powder white in Negative 35 weather. Figured it was a goner..Today its 44 degrees and powder has turned to slush and I of course after having giving up all hope miraculously found it.

    Knife: Smith & Wesson Extreme Ops
    Markings: CKG104B Hammer forged Surgical and on other side, Titanium 440 Steel

    A few questions after I wiped it down and used Canned air to dry it off.

    Images: https://imgur.com/a/05MV1rz

    1. What can I do about the few rust spots forming on the blade and rest of the knife?

    2. The belt clip now only has 2/3 screws on it, how to replace em? They look propriatary.. some kind of star head like business on it?

    3. This episode has me thinking, in the 13 years i've had it, I've not done a single thing to maintain it.. Its my EVERYDAY carry so what maintenance should I be doing on this?

    4. Based on what this knife is and more importantly its size, what similar knives would yall recommend to compliment it(never replace)?

    thanks in advance!

  2. MittenStateMashers

    MittenStateMashers Basic Member Basic Member

    Dec 12, 2018
    Oil it, use it.
  3. BladeScout

    BladeScout Basic Member Basic Member

    May 16, 2010
    For rust spots, you could use BreakFree and a bit of work with a small brass pad. Works for me.
    BreakFree works for lubrication as well.

    Anternatives to your knife are legion. Maybe narrow it down a bit; what do you plan to use the knife for?

    A good alrounder could be for example the Spyderco PM2.

    How did it save your butt from a beating, did you flash the blade and and yell "knife!" and the ruffians left or what?
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  4. Robinson1


    Feb 15, 2018
    Not super familiar with S&W models. I'm guessing that's one of their $20-$30 knives. As fas as clip screws you just need to figure out what size. Torx head screws are not proprietary and are actually very common. Finding screws that small is the problem. Unless you have a really good hardware store that deals with lots of obscure fasteners. They can be ordered online but will be expensive.

    Rust on the cutting edge will eventually sharpen out. Other rust can be taken care of with penetrating oil and fine steel wool.

    As far as maintenance shouldn't need more than an occasional sharpening and a drop of oil on the pivot a few times a year.
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  5. DB_Cruiser


    Jul 17, 2018
    Those screws look to be torx socketed screws. There is a special driver for those and Husky makes a cheap tool for those available at Home Depot. It does not look to have fared too badly in the snow. If you had salt down outside, I'd give it a good rinse under the hot tap or even a soak in warm distilled water, dry thoroughly and oil it well.
    For getting rust off of my carbon steel blades, I find some WD40 and some scraping with the edge of a copper penny (real copper, not the copper plated zinc junk pennies they make today) works pretty good if it doesn't wipe off easily with just the WD40. Your mileage may vary, but worth a shot.
  6. evilgreg

    evilgreg Why so serious? Platinum Member

    Dec 25, 2012
    My favorite method for removing light surface rust has become toothpaste on a fingertip (rub lightly until the rust disappears). As others have stated, give it a wash and dry, remove any rust spots and oil it.

    If you really want to give it the works, disassemble it and clean it inside and out.
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  7. dirc


    Jan 31, 2018
    for minor rust, I'm surprised no one has mentioned just using some white vinegar - is there a reason you don't use it?
  8. TRfromMT

    TRfromMT Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 4, 2016
    You and that knife are apparently meant to be together. Use some oil in the pivot, give it a good going over, and keep on truckin'! A few spots of character are not a big deal. Keep it sharp and keep going.
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  9. lzeplin

    lzeplin Gold Member Gold Member

    Apr 18, 2012
    S&W knife? Dig another hole and put it back! if the ground is too frozen for that, might as well oil her up at least until a proper burial can take place...
  10. Alberta Ed

    Alberta Ed

    Jun 29, 1999
    This is a perfect excuse to buy another knife.
  11. Owen K.

    Owen K.

    Sep 9, 2016
    Wow! Yeah, like these guys said just drop it in oil and take the rust off with superfine steel wool. Glad its back in good hands.
  12. Night Rider

    Night Rider Gold Member Gold Member

    Apr 16, 2018
    Just give it a good light oil rub down and wipe it clean then I would take the center screw of the clip and move it down to were the missing screw is to give the clip better retention until you find another one. That could be why it popped out of your pocket. I wouldn't try to disassemble because Smith and Wesson load their screws up with Loctite from my past experiences with them and you would do more harm than good. BTW nothing wrong being attached to an inexpensive knife, I just sharpened this one up for a friend and it was full of lint and half the screws were missing. [​IMG]
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  13. jbmonkey

    jbmonkey Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Jun 9, 2011
    looks a-okay to me in the pics. oil pivot and go back to using. should be fine.
  14. BellaBlades

    BellaBlades Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 12, 2013
    Soak and wash the thing in hot soap and water. Shake it out , dry it out and oil it up with a fresh sharpening. Done.
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  15. 19-3ben

    19-3ben Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 27, 2015
    He wasn’t asking for opinions on the quality of his knife. Furthermore, it has worked for him as his sole EDC knife for over a decade. Sounds like the knife is a good fit for his needs
  16. Bob W

    Bob W

    Dec 31, 2000
    It's stainless so I'm surprised it's rusting.
    Anyhoo... just rinse and wash it with warm running water and mild soap (like Dawn). Air-dry it. Then a couple of drops of mineral oil into the joint. A drop of mineral oil on the blade, smear it around with your finger.
    Sharpen it, use it, that's it.
  17. Rykjeklut

    Rykjeklut Basic Member Basic Member

    May 23, 2018
    Titanium 440? Is that actually a thing?
  18. Steely_Gunz

    Steely_Gunz Got the Khukuri fevah Moderator

    May 9, 2002
    It's a typical marketing ploy on lower end knives. The steel is a flavor of 440, the coating has a sprinkling of titanium in the epoxy. I'm not sure of the composition, but lots of knives have it.

    Now, that said, nothing wrong at all with an inexpensive knife that suits ones needs. I think many of us amass a clutch of knives that are so lightly used, the quality beyond pride of ownership is never really tested. Lots of $20 folders do lots of work. I had a S&W folder about 20 years ago. It was a bit of a rattle box, but it locked up tight enough to do some work. I lost it long before I killed it.

    OP, I'll make you a deal. Try to clean up the old girl. See what you can do with the advice you've been given here. If it works out, carry that old knife with pride. If you can't get it cleaned up to your liking, pony up the couple bucks to buy a basic membership and I will find you something lightly used from my trunk of knives that i promise you will be worth more than the $10 bucks a membership costs and a step up in quality from your S&W.

    Can't lose on that one;)
  19. Ajack60

    Ajack60 Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Apr 21, 2013
    For the rust, get one of these. It won't harm the finish on the blade.

  20. whp


    Apr 26, 2009
    Very nice.

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