How tough CPM-3V really is?

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I have posted pics of many of my knives (Tops, Becker, Esee, etc.) I'm not about to dig them all out again to snap pics just to appease you, and that aren't relevant to this thread. :)
But it is relevant to this thread :) My parang have lot of proof on blade how much it was used . So let us to see your hard-used knives ?
 
But it is relevant to this thread :) My parang have lot of proof on blade how much it was used . So let us to see your hard-used knives ?

Again, I have posted many pics over my 20+ years on this forum.

I've got nothing to prove - and no, it is not relevant. However, you are about to be added to my idiot/ignore list.....
 
Again, I have posted many pics over my 20+ years on this forum.

I've got nothing to prove - and no, it is not relevant. However, you are about to be added to my idiot/ignore list.....
Sure , whatever you say 🤣 And yes do that , I will be glad to be in the company of those *Idiots* :)
PS, Do you like to SEE how look used knife ?
 
I think we all would.

Anyone with all that "knowledge" should be able to demonstrate that they know how to put it to use.
Stay tuned. Estimate launch of new product is late spring.
 
This is all I found here on BladeForums:


There is more.
 
My friend, I just saw that I am near the same city where you are (al jbg buraz, moram tu na engleskom). If you are a knife maker I would really want to see your work.

If you ever feel like grabbing a cold beer with fellow forum member, let me know bro. Cheers.
I have a few old testers at this moment to show. All is in storage. Moving to another country maybe. Feel free to call up when in the hood.
 
To stay on the topic...

So ESEE makes a lot of 1095 very thin. Like ESEE 3/4/6 and Junglass. But they use lower hardness.
TOPS is making thicker knives and also seems to be using differential hardening.

80CrV2 and 5160 are different steels and different story so I won't go into them now.

But, no matter what they do - 3V will still have way better stain resistance than 1095, and also better edge retention (edge retention more similar to D2 for example), while retaining huge ammount of toughness for that kind of edge retention. But overall toughess is more than just steel, it is heat treat, grind, stress risors and other factors, so a 1095 CAN be tougher than 3V knife, but as said, stain resistance and edge retention are another story.

That is the conclusion I got after this discussion. Correct me if I'm in wrong here.
 
I have a few old testers at this moment to show. All is in storage. Moving to another country maybe. Feel free to call up when in the hood.
No worry man. Never saw hand made knives before so it'll be something new to me. My exams are ending soon so I'll have time.
 
To stay on the topic...

So ESEE makes a lot of 1095 very thin. Like ESEE 3/4/6 and Junglass. But they use lower hardness.
TOPS is making thicker knives and also seems to be using differential hardening.

80CrV2 and 5160 are different steels and different story so I won't go into them now.

But, no matter what they do - 3V will still have way better stain resistance than 1095, and also better edge retention (edge retention more similar to D2 for example), while retaining huge ammount of toughness for that kind of edge retention. But overall toughess is more than just steel, it is heat treat, grind, stress risors and other factors, so a 1095 CAN be tougher than 3V knife, but as said, stain resistance and edge retention are another story.

That is the conclusion I got after this discussion. Correct me if I'm in wrong here.
To define things better as I think this is your goal. A 1095 KNIFE can be tougher than a 3v KNIFE.
 
Thanks, I think I've got that.

What do the graphs show? I don't quite understand how to read them. Most curves decline to the right, but I am not sure what that means.

I would like to see a comparison of the advanced (trendy) alloys from the advent of say, S30V to the present with "Magnicut".
 
Thanks, I think I've got that.

What do the graphs show? I don't quite understand how to read them. Most curves decline to the right, but I am not sure what that means.

I would like to see a comparison of the advanced (trendy) alloys from the advent of say, S30V to the present with "Magnicut".
Declining to the right means that toughness decreases as hardness increases for every steel type.

Here's the comparison that actually matters:

stainless-ratings-table2.jpg
 
Blue will be stronger, while red will be better at slicing.

But still, whatever they did to make that 1095 cut that frying pan the way it did and take no damage - props to them. They know their HT.
And that is the * name of the game * for any steel out there .
choose what suits you. If you ask me, the best knife is the one that is not the best in any discipline, but is mediocre in all . It would be something like a universal knife.................
 
And look at the steels that won Forged in Fire knife or death competition (I know, I know, who won where the guys that handled the knives/swords): superbly well heat treated 1075 and 80crv2.

Yes yes various steels aaaaaaand...? :oops:
 
Toughness is how much force a knife can take without breaking
Well toughness and hardness both play a part in this. Blades intended to be tough are usually not run at high hardness, a blade treated to high hardness can resist breaking beyond the point where a lower hardness blade would break. Toughness enters into this in 2 different ways- if a blade has geometry that causes stress concentrations (stress risers) it can initiate a fracture there at a relatively low point, higher toughness steels would resist this. The other influence of toughness is what happens when a blade reaches its stress limits- with low toughness the blade would break, with high toughness the blade would bend (or the edge would roll).

All that aside, give me simple answer to my question.

If these steels are so much better than 1095 and it's all in geometry, then why their knife makers don't give them the geometry needed to withstand the same or even more than what 1095 does?
Not everybody knows the geometry that is required, and/or those issues don't fit in with their design or manufacturing. For instance a hidden tang knife can have a fracture point where the tang goes through the guard. Does everybody know how to mitigate this? Are they willing to take the additional steps during manufacture to mitigate this? This is just one example- pins through handle scales, holes in blades, choils, jimping, lots of things like can affect the strength of a blade. Edge geometry is another factor- we know what edge geometry resists chipping but it doesn't cut very well and may not work with the blade grind that they want in their design.
 
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