Support BladeForums! Paid memberships don't see ads! Timo, Yes, I stand corrected. I did confuse the terms as I am used to using the Shinsakuto term of real or newly made swords. I should have said the Iaito did not fall under the ministry of culture. You rarely see the term Shinken used in collecting circles, where Shinsakuto is used almost exclusively. Whereas in Martial Arts circles it seems just the opposite is true. ?? I was under the impression that Shinken while being real swords may be produced at different quality levels. Though, I confess this is totally outside my focus of study, and I am not at all sure about this. Perhaps you can elaborate. Thanks for clarifying that.