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Originally posted by akabu


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In Singapore you have to register /get a permit to teach or learn martial art's...
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Not really, my family is from Singapore, and I grew up there. But, you *DO* need to register your hands when you reach a certain level (beyond 6-level Black Belt, I think). If you're caught in posession of a firearm, you get the death sentance, by hanging...
 
Akabu, thank you for all your efforts to help people. You are a plus to our world.

Eikerverang: (sic) "American conditions" is an great way to put it. IN your county you have a more cohesive social structure, a society that holds similar beliefs. In America we've forgotten under the banner of multi culturalism that the "melting pot" was meant for us all to join together. In a 'little Italy" (or pick your favorite) there used to be pride in holding old country traditions, but PRIDE IN SPEAKING ENGLISH and attaining american customs too.

All countries are unique. I think the end will be very similar for all though. A new Big Screen TV world wide class of people, all wearing T shirts adverstising a product or music event. We'll worship the young. I'm sorry...I'm a pessimist. I believe in family, friends, and fine tools, and pray to God for help. I don't trust governments, social movements, or herds.

I really do sound like I live in Montana, don't I?

munk
 
Originally posted by munk
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All countries are unique. I think the end will be very similar for all though. A new Big Screen TV world wide class of people, all wearing T shirts adverstising a product or music event. We'll worship the young. I'm sorry...I'm a pessimist. ...
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That's a depressing thought - that 'consumer culture' will devour everything..
 
Originally posted by munk
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I'm fond of a sociological rule I made up. Hey, I'm no professor, but I like it. The farther removed you get from individual responsibility, the worse things are, ( and the worse government's get.) Taking obligations away from citizens and placing them in any external authority is what lemmings fail to see as disaster.

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I certainly agree with you on individual responsibility. It seems that increasingly people do not feel that they are obliged to do anything in particular, other than make lots of money for themselves. The idea of individual accountability seems to definitely be waning..

I'll add my own sort of 'rule' - it's best to avoid extremes. A complete lack of any restrictions on the possession and use of weapons would not be good, but nor is severe restrictions on possession & use either (- esp. since many of these so-called weapons are simply carried as TOOLS). Fairly obvious, I know - but it seems rather infrequent that people (governments, &c.) try to steer a 'middle course'.

in any case..
 
Thanks munk! I didn't dare to throw in a burning tourch into this by using the word multiculturalism! But I was hoping for that this thread would lead to it in the end.

What in the world is happening is still my big question!! Holocaust is bad when it is done by exterminating a population and their culture by violence and war. But it is completely ok if it is done by an intelectual elite that dictates us and our politicians what is good and what is evil in this world. And evil is according to them to avoid immigration and self destruction. They seem to be of the opinion that self destruction is a good thing. Well I have given up understanding their logics. They seem to me to suffer from some kind of perverted ethics and moral.

Munk you are making me sad now. How can you give up hope? The only thing that stops us from acting and dealing with problems is that we don't care enough or that we give up. Maybe you are right, maybe it is too late. But the question we all have to ask ourselves is if we like to suffer a slow death by giving up and await for the unevitable, or if we prefer to die fighting!? I know what I prefer. I prefer to go down with the flag raised instead of looking back and think:"...hey.... if I had only done something... maybe things would have been different..." And besides, what will our children think of us; their ancestors who didnt't care or act!

Please munk! Keep hope alive!

Greetings
 
I'll add my own sort of 'rule' - it's best to avoid extremes. A complete lack of any restrictions on the possession and use of weapons would not be good, but nor is severe restrictions on possession & use either >>> Beoram

Yes, Beoram, we don't want LAWS rockets in the hands of the neighborhood bully. Ideas are seductive, they have this promise of solution, like capitalism, or free speech, or right to keep and bear arms. The truth is any idea carried to extreme is madness. That said, though, we could go a lot farther with free enterprise in this country, and a world farther with keeping and bearing arms, and still be in that happy medium of balance.

You know, for an scholar, you really are exceptional. How that must put you at odds with your peers! You are a Magician.


munk
 
Eikervaring: The Berlin wall fell. Who could have predicted that?

We renew freedom. Things will have to get worse, though.


munk
 
I think I read somewhere that the way the gun laws in the US work they actually lead to a social difference in types of guns and death tolls.

This means that regular middle class people can afford to be reasonably well armed and can protect themselves if they wish to. While the lower life criminal groups of people living in slums and ghettos have cheaper weapons that are not so good.

The difference in the death tolls is that the death rate due to shooting is higher among that low life group than among ordinary people. I don't remember but I think it was because they shoot eachother to a great deal.

So you could say that the gun laws in the US today make sense. Except the social groups that give birth to notorious criminals have high enough birth rates to outweigh their higher death rate by violence. So the US gun law could at best be considered an inadequate mean to remove unwanted elements from the population. It merely keeps the decay at a certain level.
 
Originally posted by munk
I'll add my own sort of 'rule' - it's best to avoid extremes. A complete lack of any restrictions on the possession and use of weapons would not be good, but nor is severe restrictions on possession & use either >>> Beoram

Yes, Beoram, we don't want LAWS rockets in the hands of the neighborhood bully. Ideas are seductive, they have this promise of solution, like capitalism, or free speech, or right to keep and bear arms. The truth is any idea carried to extreme is madness.
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Well-said.

That said, though, we could go a lot farther with free enterprise in this country, and a world farther with keeping and bearing arms, and still be in that happy medium of balance.
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What do you envison with regard to expanding free enterprise in the USA?

I do also think that the USA needs some more 'socialism' in various areas - particularly health-care (which won't replace private health care, but simply supplement). The trick with these things is, I think, that some things work well 'socialised' and some things work very poorly and likewise for 'privatisation'.

Yes, I agree that, globally-speaking, keeping and bearing arms should be tipped more towards the liberal side (by which I mean liberal in the sense of greater allowance) - though I won't be able to say exactly what the right 'mixture' is. And I think one needs to allow for cultural differences too.

You know, for an scholar, you really are exceptional. How that must put you at odds with your peers! You are a Magician.
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Many thanks for your kind words :) As a scholar I think it is important to keep an open mind on all fronts and not be led into 'knee-jerk' reactions or the popular 'scholarly' sentiment of the time (on 'scholarly' topics as well as other issues).


Eikerværing writes
I think I read somewhere that the way the gun laws in the US work they actually lead to that there is a social difference in types of guns and death tolls.

This means that regular middle class people can afford to be reasonably well armed and can protect themselves if they wish to. While the lower life criminal groups of people living in slums and ghettos have cheaper weapons that are not so good.

The difference in the death tolls is that the death rate due to shooting is higher among that low life group than among ordinary people. I don't remember but I think it was because they shoot eachother to a great deal.

So you could say that the gun laws in the US today make sense. Except the social groups that give birth to notorious crimninals have high enough birth rates to outweigh their higher death rate by violence. So the US gun law could at best be considered an inadequate mean to inflict social control.
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This is a very intereting point. The problem is also that policing is also disparate on this issue - i.e. police, in a sense, really work to protect the middle-class (& upper-class) and their property and not so much the lower-class.

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A very good thread - spence's & munk's 'NRA reaction' anecdotes are qutie intersting.

cheers for now,

--Ben
 
Eikverang: I don't think there is any difference in murder rates due to type of firearms ownership and class. There is some arugment Saturday Night Special bans affect the poor and elderly who may not have nor wish to spend the money for a 'good' firearm, but want to protect themselves.

Drugs have raised the murder rates. It is true a huge number of drug related homocides adversely affect the national average. You should check out; More Guns, Less Crime by Professor John Lott.

munk
 
Originally posted by munk
I don't think there is any difference in murder rates due to type of firearms ownership and class.

munk
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Ok munk. I have my data from a paper published in a scientific journal for human behavioural ecology. But that paper only adressed death rates (mostly by murder) and birth rates among poor people in one single US city. I guess the national average could be different.
 
Many studies by our prestigious John Hopkins, and some published by the New England Journal of Medicine are flawed. Don't know what you read, but murder rates amongst poor drug takers are not going to change due to the kind or type of weapon used.

munk
 
Originally posted by akabu
Hibuke,as I do a lot of travel, with extended stay's mostly in Asia ,and haveing extended family and friend's in many countries,Sing.& Aus. just nameing two,I try to keep up with the new's and law's of each:http://www.spinet.gov.sg/service/lic6.html http://www.spinet.gov.sg/service/cer4.html akabu PS Square Melons anyone http://straitstimes.asia1.com.sg/mnt/media/image/launched/2002-06-17/et_stifront0617_11pm.jpg :)
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Sorry! I stand corrected! :eek:

BTW, Akabu, when have you been down here to Australia? When are you coming again? Which parts of Australia? :D:D:D:D:D
 
Originally posted by spence
In an instant, older-bro grabbed younger-bro. I was then treated to the sight of two pale-blue men in disco-era drag bolting from the room. Literally.
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I had a near-opposite experience. My ex-wife's stepfather is an English expat, who also happens to be an outspoken and prolific writer. He and I agree on most non-political topics (e.g. the blues and good whiskey) and are complete political opposites. Whenever he chose to criticize our culture I would reply that having been born of six generations of serfdom, his inability to comprehend the concept of liberty was understandable. ;) It was all in good nature, he's a helluva guy.

Anyhow, the best response I ever made to one of his derogatory comments about our "gun culture" was to let him examine and handle my Sig P-220 and Colt Anaconda.

The moment was priceless - a lot like the picture mPisi posted of the expression on his friend's face when he opened the box and picked up that HI WWII. :D :D

I never could convince him to go to the range with me, I think his pride prevented that. But after that day when he visited the house he would occasionally ask (very discreetly of course) to see those pistols again.
 
The anaconda never felt right in my hands firing. When they put it in .45 colt, it was hard not to get one. I had a friend who wanted a 'big 44'. (I worked in a gun store) I showed him everything we had and told him all I knew. He wanted the Anaconda. "Ana," he called her.


munk
 
Hi Hibuke,Family and friend's Melboune/Sydney/Brisbane maybe this year depend's on other priorities, can never make hard plan's,had trip to Canada for a resturant expo had to put off twice!! Hong Kong for certain,My niece just left for 2 month's intern for a Banking House and her mom and brother will be going in two week's. If I make HK will be useing it as jump off for other trip's.OZ vist many year's ago,when I was a young and frisky man :)
 
Originally posted by akabu
Hi Hibuke,Family and friend's Melboune/Sydney/Brisbane maybe this year depend's on other priorities, can never make hard plan's,had trip to Canada for a resturant expo had to put off twice!! Hong Kong for certain,My niece just left for 2 month's intern for a Banking House and her mom and brother will be going in two week's. If I make HK will be useing it as jump off for other trip's.OZ vist many year's ago,when I was a young and frisky man :)
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PTL! :D:D:D

Great! Which part of Melbourne?!






All excited now...
 
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