"Persian"? Blade shape purpose? (Benchmade Bedlam)

[KenHash]

My opinion has always been that the Benchmade Bedlam is similar to their Bailout. In both cases a traditonal weapon blade style has been incorporated into a modern knife. Tanto blades are originally based on the traditional weapons of Japan,. And the Bedlam was originally made for the Prince of Jordan's security detail. And in both cases they have been found to have utility uses as a knife blade.

 

[shane45-1911]

It's for killing zombie threads.

Hmmmm, haven't seen one of those threads for a while......it's on my New Year's resolution to start one.

 

[GIRLYmann]

yeah has a very specific
bad boy look to it.
promising things very nasty indeed
as the product name suggest - wanton madness.
and considering what curves does
to a man's imagination...
its very clever subliminal markerting
with "s€x appeal" lol

 

[David Mary]

Hmmmm, haven't seen one of those threads for a while......it's on my New Year's resolution to start one.

When was this thread started?

 

[DMG]

It's for killing zombie threads.

Apparently it is broken.

 

[docflash]

an article in _Recoil_ said that when hammering one side of a flat piece of metal, the opposite edge tends to curve away - lifting the point, as it were. he also said MANY early cultures made cutting tools with upturned tips.

 

[TC]

Clearly it accessorizes with the slippers. Duh!

 

[justjed]

Yeah, but does it make your butt look big?

 

[Hashishiin]

+1 Every once in a while a blade is actually built for "tactical" use.

I had one and it is devastating to say the least.

Didja ever compare it to a Wharncliffe? I wish Michael Janich would come talk on this thread. That guy knows whats up when it comes to real-world cutting capabilities of blade shapes.

As to the thread... I have never had NEED for a trailing point like this. I am glad to have it, but did not buy it for the shape purposely (Espada XL). I'm going to hunt, eventually, and plan to carry my Espada XL at least one of those trips, to compare it to a 119 and such. I'm glad to know that it is such a potent profile for fighting, I really did not know that big clip was of any use. I want to make my own meat-man and do some cutting tests of my own, because I get some wild ideas.

 

[ferider]

Didja ever compare it to a Wharncliffe?

I wish Michael Janich would come talk on this thread. That guy knows whats up when it comes to real-world cutting capabilities of blade shapes.

Note that I don't believe in knives for SD.

Still, H., these are just different techniques .... check Laci Szabo or James Keating, for instance, for trailing point usage.

 

[Hashishiin]

Note that I don't believe in knives for SD.

Still, H., these are just different techniques .... check Laci Szabo or James Keating, for instance, for trailing point usage.

No, I'm talking about because MJ tried a ton of blade shapes against each other on the meat man. His spirit might have been SD, but, cutting is cutting.
Love Keating, and have been absolutely sleeping on Szabo. I can't afford another knife hero, man, my poor wallet

 

[ferider]

No, I'm talking about because MJ tried a ton of blade shapes against each other on the meat man. His spirit might have been SD, but, cutting is cutting.
Love Keating, and have been absolutely sleeping on Szabo. I can't afford another knife hero, man, my poor wallet

Oh, I think you know I love my straight edges .... however, there is one thing that is hard to do with them. Persian will work though:

https://imgur.com/50qkp5r

 

[Hashishiin]

Oh! Well, there we go, then. Trailing points beat the wharncliffe as a spud knife.

Entranced by that footage though, must've watched that GB2 cut that tater 40 times.

 

[ferider]

Yeah - sorry, don't know how to do a non-auto-repeat GIF

 

[BOHAWG]

Persian style blade? What's the point?
The soul purpose is combat. The shape has been practical, real world use for centuries. The shape is after the Jambiya(Google that) ... a Middle-Eastern dagger.
The Bedlam hit the scene around 2010 and its rumored to have originally been designed for the Elite Guard of the King of Jordan.
I carried one for years, after carrying a Spyderco Persian for years before that. I'm back to carrying the Spyderco Persian only because I like the heft of the Spyderco.

 

[King of the Cheese]

Who woulda thunk that a blade shape trialed in combat for centuries of warfare would become scrutinized on practicality by internet knife-bros in 2021-2022?

 

[Alberta Ed]

It looks neat. I would use it for assassinating tomatoes and other threatening vegetables.

 

[Henry Beige]

I didn’t use to have much fondness for an upturned blade. The Becker 5 and 15 changed my view. Those and the absolutely lovely Rough Rider Upswept Trapper (don’t judge it on my photo, just take my word for it, or find Joe Razda’s pics of his). Then I came across this knife from David Mary. I forget what he calls it. I call it an EDC cimeter.
It is small enough for pocket carry, does all the usual EDC stuff, and is wizard at slicing onions and apples.

Having said that, t am not too fond of the Benchmade Persian, which strikes me as murdery in a gaudy way.

 

[Murdamook]

Didja ever compare it to a Wharncliffe? I wish Michael Janich would come talk on this thread. That guy knows whats up when it comes to real-world cutting capabilities of blade shapes.

As to the thread... I have never had NEED for a trailing point like this. I am glad to have it, but did not buy it for the shape purposely (Espada XL). I'm going to hunt, eventually, and plan to carry my Espada XL at least one of those trips, to compare it to a 119 and such. I'm glad to know that it is such a potent profile for fighting, I really did not know that big clip was of any use. I want to make my own meat-man and do some cutting tests of my own, because I get some wild ideas.

I find MJ’s testing practices and techniques to be lacking. I’ll stick with Craig Douglas of Shivworks. The saber grip on the Yojimbo is great for work cutting, but I think it’s suboptimal in a combat setting.

I carry an Emerson Persian daily. It works well within a grappling concept: you can catch limbs, stab effectively, and slash (even though that’s not viable).

 

[Hashishiin]

I find MJ’s testing practices and techniques to be lacking. I’ll stick with Craig Douglas of Shivworks. The saber grip on the Yojimbo is great for work cutting, but I think it’s suboptimal in a combat setting.

I carry an Emerson Persian daily. It works well within a grappling concept: you can catch limbs, stab effectively, and slash (even though that’s not viable).

I have been finding myself battling between various options, as I do like to carry one dedicated SD folder; I switch between Janich-Wharnies, to reverse-S shapes, to large trailing points like the Espada XL. No gun for me, just my ability to talk myself out, my boots, spray and knife.

I know eventually I must make my own tests, but why do you like Shivworks? I have never really looked into them, heard the name but I'm curious.