Schrade Cut Co/Walden/Imperial/Camillus with Military Applications...

[Larry303]

Following on from the Military Folder thread recently.....
Military Fixed Blades, TL-29's <Tool Linesmen>, and Military Clasps, and WW11 Coast Guard Knife..........

1. CS-34 Pouch,Linesman's Rig containing Schrade Cut Co TL29 and TL-13-A Krafuter plier set.
2.BTO1, USA Schrade Bomb Tech No1 <genuine Forged Stainless blade>
3.Imperial USM4 Bayonet and Scabbard USM 8 A1.Flaming Bomb Acceptance/Ordinance mark on Pommel.
4.Camillus U.S.C.G. <United States Coast Guard> Tang stamped Approved 1944/05.
5.2 x Schrade Walden Pilots knives H15 from early 50's...Flaming Bomb Acceptance/ Ordinance marks on Pommels...
6. 2 x Schrade Walden 204S TL-29's style.
7. 2 x Camillus folding clasps.
8. 2 x Schrade tang stamp SCC USA 204 ,TL-29 style.
9.Craftsman USA 95237 TL-29 style.
10.Sears Stainless 95428 TL-29 Style.
11. Vintage Schrade Cut Co squeeze blade to open TL-29.
plus various Camillus TL-29's etc...
Photos for anyone interested...

 

[Larry303]

more...Military knife photos..

 

[Larry303]

and more...

 

[Larry303]

and more again..

 

[Larry303]

plus few more photos....

 

[Larry303]

and final one of the Coast Guard Tang Stamp...

 

[edbeau]

Great bunch of pictures, Larry. having a TL-29 in the tool box for the whole time I was in the Air Force, they always got a lot of use. I picked up an Imperial "Demo" knife off the bay last night, I forgot I even bid on it. Picked it up for less than $14.

 

[Larry303]

Just bringing up this thread for Aggiebuilder. Chuck you will see a photo of my BTO1 <Bomb Tech No1> in photo 5 top line...they are that price due to their scarcity and their construction ..manufactured in 1996....forged stainless steel.....it is one massive knife/tool to hold. I thought that a reasonable price considering all aspects of this knife/tool.. they were obviously offered to Law Enforcement first at a special price as they helped design for Schrade,as I understand it, to FBI specifications for the FBI......I've had mine for years...I dont believe I've seen another..that is actually USA made.....can you imagine the Chinese version and more to the point would you put your life in its hands.....forged stainless not flawed stainless for me....Hoo Roo

 

[aggiebuilder2003]

It is a very interesting knife to say the least. I haven't seen many cross the bay that were USA made. It's one of those that you just want to have it to have it.

Chuck

 

[Dave Thinkstoomuch]

The BT01 seems like a well thought out design and it's scarcity, size, forged construction etc make's it a desired collectible no doubt.

The only criticism I have is that it's made out of cheaper 420 stainless as opposed to 440A or another even better steel. I know Buck made the change from 440C to 420 and they still sell lots of knives but on a SFO like the BT01 I figured they would have upgraded the steel.

Am I wrong to think 420 is kind of bottom-end stainless when it comes to fine knives?

 

[Larry303]

Dave, I believe you may be correct in your conclusion if 'hardness' is the only criteria the designers considered, as 420 SS is 54 Rockwell <HRC> whilst 440A is 57-59 Rockwell <HRC> however I will have to get mine out and see if it attracts to a magnet!.....:Composition of 420 Stainless S:can be either .4% to .5% Carbon, and 12% to 14% Chromium. 440A can be .6% to to .75% Carbon, 13% to 18% Chromium however also comprises .45% to .75% Molybdenum, can contain up to 1% Vanadium, .5% to 1% Manganese, .4% Silica....it certainly is a 'harder' steel on the Rockwell Scale,however absolute hardness may not be the only criteria they relied on and the addition of those other metal compositions may have been undesirable....I am only taking a guess here...I would however imagine that if your working on diffusing a bomb you need absolutely everything in your favor. The blade is very thick in either case......Hoo Roo

 

[Larry303]

Thread brought up to show the Schrade Bomb Tech No1.....re the question just raised in another post. Hoo Roo

 

[Larry303]

I have just re-introduced my previous thread as I was looking to see one of my TL29's photographed here and I use this as my storage area without having to unpack all my knives when I wish to see one....!...there was also recent talk about the TL29 pattern knives and there is a selection here from my collection....for info if anyone interested...Hoo Roo

 

[Larry303]

We don't see many Schrade Family folders and fixed blades with Military application on this Forum....does any member have any of these to show?....Hoo Roo....

 

[Larry303]

Cal/Tongueriver....'You asked for it'......Schrade-Walden Pilots knife from the 1950's....the genuine Military sheaths always had the extra rivet at the bottom to help prevent blade penetration upon impact...quite often sellers will sell a genuine S/Walden Military pilots' knife <flaming bomb acceptance mark on butt> on the popular site, however they match it with a civilian version and describe it as original...always look for the extra rivet....Hoo Roo

 

[Bloefield]

Thank you for this thread Larry [and T/river the enabler].
Amazing knives!!!

 

[deltaboy]

Thanks guys.

 

[Saddlebum]

Here is my entire military collection, all in one picture.
Really nice collection, Larry, and good information.

Ulster 'Demo' knife, pre 1973 with the pin punch on the screwdriver blade.

 

[tongueriver]

xxxxxx

 

[Saddlebum]

I have read claims from guys with first hand experience that the pin punch was useful for disassembling and assembling a variety of weapons. Those that I can remember reading about are the 1911, M1 Garand and M1 Carbine. I think there are more, like the M14, but I don't remember. After learning that, I assumed that possibly the reason why the military deleted it from the official specs in 1973 is because it doesn't serve that purpose on M92 Berettas and M16s. Just a guess. The time frame is about right I think with only a few, if any, M14s still in service.