The Puukko

Scandi grind is what mora knives have. More grind, I meant it to mean, the grind is closer to the spine / farther up the side of the blade. Scandi grind is only about 5/16” from the edge to terminus. Where most puukkos seem to be twice that.
 
This has the taller grind I label as “more”.
RayseM said:
This JELIO just came in. Ebony with Nickel Silver details - Vanadis 4 Xtra blade. Beautiful in hand!!

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This has a scandi grind, and is beautiful!
tongueriver said:
If anyone has anything informative to add to this, what I believe to be a Norwegian knife from the Toten region, I would certainly like to hear it.
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tongueriver tongueriver pretty sure JM2 JM2 is referring to a higher grind, like a saber grind, when saying it has "more grind."

Scandi's are a flat grind where the primary bevel starts close to the edge and sometimes has no secondary bevel. Saber grinds are flat grinds that start around the middle of the blade width/height. High saber a little higher and full flat all the wat from edge to spine.

Most puukko's I've handled were saber grinds or high saber grinds.

You can also have hollow or convex ground saber, at least in my language of describing how an edge is ground. Scandi, saber, full for height and hollow, flat, convex for how it's ground.
 
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tongueriver said:
Dumb questions of the day: What does 'scandi grind' mean? And what is 'more grind'?
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Scandi grind -
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Its fine as long as the blade isn't thick. The blade on the knife shown is about 4mm thick, really too thick for this particular grind. It will get scary sharp and carve wood ok, but its not much of a slicer or anything else for that matter.

The scandi grind works best on thin blades like these, a bit over 2mm thick-
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A "real" traditional type puukko has a grind about 2/3 of the way up the blade with a grind line that curves right up behind the tip
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JM2 said:
I know nothing about puukkos. But I’m learning and looking at the pictures here. I’m not big on moras because I don’t like the scandi grind. I see the puukko has more grind. And I like the ones with stacked handles and end caps. Pretty neat design though. Thanks to all that have shared here.
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tongueriver said:
Dumb questions of the day: What does 'scandi grind' mean?
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A misnomer propagated by Ray Mears and subsequently by many others. And then further abused by applying the "lower 1/3" grind to thick modern "bushcraft" knives.

As detailed above, traditional knives from the Nordic regions had a variety of grind heights, and historically speaking, there really is no such thing as a "Scandinavian grind." Traditional puukkos have fairly thin spines and essentially a saber grind (or 2/3 grind height) that performs worlds apart from modern thick "Scandi" bushcraft knives that are popular now.

(I know your question was rhetorical and tongue-in-cheek, TR)
 
JM2 said:
This has the taller grind I label as “more”.


This has a scandi grind, and is beautiful!
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Jelio calls it a a RHOMBIC Grind - The Rhombic grind is most commonly used for Puuko style fixed blade knives. It is a standard flat grind design but the steel tapers slightly towards the back spine.
Smithhammer said:
Amazing, Ray. I hope we continue to see more pics of that beauty.
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Thanks. I'm lovin' it.

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RayseM said:
Jelio calls it a a RHOMBIC Grind - The Rhombic grind is most commonly used for Puuko style fixed blade knives. It is a standard flat grind design but the steel tapers slightly towards the back spine.

Thanks. I'm lovin' it.

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The rhombic grind with the relief bevel on the spine side is great, IMO. I'm not sure how traditional it is for all types, but I was under the impression it was a common feature on tommi style puukkos, but puukko characterization and styles is far from a topic I'm an expert in. General awareness at best. Love the designs and simple elegance.
 
I understand it to be a feature of Tommi puukkos too bikerector bikerector . Obviously not exclusively used for puukkos generally but we can say for Jelio blades without qualifiers.
 
bikerector said:
The rhombic grind with the relief bevel on the spine side is great, IMO. I'm not sure how traditional it is for all types, but I was under the impression it was a common feature on tommi style puukkos, but puukko characterization and styles is far from a topic I'm an expert in. General awareness at best. Love the designs and simple elegance.
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The rhombic grind puukko was first produced in the late 19th century by a man named Kalle Keränen, the smith credited with making the original Tommi style knife. Most puukko makers have used it since. The two pictured above, a 1960s vintage Marttiini Ilves and a prewar Jarvenpaa puukko, both have rhombic blades.
 
Arathol said:
The rhombic grind puukko was first produced in the late 19th century by a man named Kalle Keränen, the smith credited with making the original Tommi style knife. Most puukko makers have used it since. The two pictured above, a 1960s vintage Marttiini Ilves and a prewar Jarvenpaa puukko, both have rhombic blades.
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I would've thought it older than that. Thanks for the info.
 
RayseM said:
A Jelio made Ebony and nickel silver Puukko with Vanadis 4 Extra blade.

He built this to my handle concept. Fit and finish is as good as it gets.

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The sheath is a custom made byJosh of SwissHeritageCo SwissHeritageCo . It is a beautiful and solid piece of expert leather work.
Fit and finish on this is equal to that of Jelio to his knife.

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Jelio's fit and finish are as clean as it gets, it's a beauty Ray!

I've held many a custom puukko, and the handle on your jelio was among the most comfortable (not an overly sharp radiused edge on it). I've probably sold about 5-6 "high end" custom puukko's because the handle was shaped too sharply at the bottom.

Jelio knows what he is doing ;)

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SwissHeritageCo said:
Jelio's fit and finish are as clean as it gets, it's a beauty Ray!

I've held many a custom puukko, and the handle on your jelio was among the most comfortable (not an overly sharp radiused edge on it). I've probably sold about 5-6 "high end" custom puukko's because the handle was shaped too sharply at the bottom.

Jelio knows what he is doing ;)

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As does the leather guy SwissHeritageCo SwissHeritageCo :thumbsup::)
 
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