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Here's an old (1936-52, and based on can opener, probably post-WWII) Imperial scout knife I picked up at a consignment/antique/junk store in Cedarville, MI on one of our August vacations to that village. First photo is right after purchase, second photo is after some cleanup effort (I doubt if I'll try to remove the "serrations" on the small blade).
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While dating mine I discovered the "Safety Can Opener" on you and my example was introduced in 1947.Here's an old (1936-52, and based on can opener, probably post-WWII) Imperial scout knife I picked up at a consignment/antique/junk store in Cedarville, MI on one of our August vacations to that village. First photo is right after purchase, second photo is after some cleanup effort (I doubt if I'll try to remove the "serrations" on the small blade).
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Therefore, you can narrow the date of manufacture from 1947 to 1952.
FYI the blade takes and holds a keen 10° per side/20° inclusive edge.
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I know Imperial applied for the patent for that can opener on November 7, 1944 and that patent was granted Christmas Day 1945. I have some Imperial knives that have "patent pending" stamps on them, so it's conceivable to me that they could have started using the new can opener as early as the end of 1944. It's also hard for me to believe that they'd wait for more than a year after the patent was approved to start using it. So I'm inclined to say the patent info dates my knife to the range 1946-1952.While dating mine I discovered the "Safety Can Opener" on you and my example was introduced in 1947.
Therefore, you can narrow the date of manufacture from 1947 to 1952.
FYI the blade takes and holds a keen 10° per side/20° inclusive edge.
https://www.datamp.org//patents/displayPatent.php?pn=2391732&id=40228
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Imperial (and everyone else) started using the safety opener in 1944 when military procurement specifications changed to require the one piece opener. After the war, other makers outside of the Imperial brand companies went back to their previous opener designs or paid Imperial to continue using the design until the patent expired.
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Cool. Earlier than I thought.
I don't know if the Imperial Engineers knife was ever a military issue item.
Like my 1930's-1947 4 line Camillus Easy Open Jack/Navy knife, if it had a "Property Of US Government" or similar blade etch, it is long gone ... possibly long gone before my mum and her then boyfriend made the biggest "oops" of their (then young and unwedded) lives, that resulted in me, before ither graduated from high school.
They never wedded each other. I discovered when i was 30 my mum's first hubby was the eldest brother of her ex high school sweety, who married someone else ither soon after exiting the Air Force, or while still in. I had no idea the guy I was raised to call "uncle" and his other four kids "cousins" was really my bio dad, and the guy I consider my dad was really my uncle.
My mum had 2 more sons while wedded to him. They are my cousins because their pop is my uncle. Since we have the same mum, but different pop's they are also my half brothers. Even "better"(?) ... Since my bio dad and uncle are "full brothers" with the same paternal and maternal lineage, my cousin/half brothers are also my full brothers, since we have exactly the same ancestry.
The experts in Utah, told me my situation is very rare.
Yes. my blood family was "strange". (still is, so far as I no ... even tho everyone from the previous generations and my youngest half brother from a different mummy) are all off the census. Only 1 blood kin is willing to talk to me. I R ded to the rest of them ... Their gain, my loss, I guess. I kin understand them not wanting anything to do with something this ewwwww-gly and deformed.
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