I finally talked myself into hitting the buy button on a Manix2 G-10 (satin blade model). I thought my full-size Griptilian was going to fulfill my EDC needs when I want to carry a blade between 3 and 4" but I seldom find myself going for that knife, opting for my fake PM2 instead (which is itself a pretty nice knife). But, the idea of using a Chinese knock-off everyday hasn't been sitting well with m;. I wanted a quality US made knife and with a serious lock on it. The Giptilian is a great knife that will be the folder I grab when I go hiking or camping, but I think the Manix2 might just hit the sweet spot I'm looking for in a larger EDC. I wish Spyderco would take these in and skeletonize the liners at the owner's request. I just contacted them and they said no. An ounce off the weight of that knife would be great but I couldn't justify the extra cost of a sprint run to save the weight. As an aside, CutleryShoppe.com has awesome prices.