When it's not exactly Made in the USA - Hoback

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Let's be real, Jake Hoback did this to himself, and he did worse to every one of his customers too
 

It is deceptive as hell, particularly considering his history as a liar and his continued refusal to correctly label every individual knife he sells. Using his system he can make a prototype in America, outsource the manufacturing of every subsequent knife to China, then list USA/ China on his website.

No one else does this bullshit.
 
I just saw a dealer (not a BF dealer) isn't even listing the COO. They have it listed as, Designer: Jake Hoback. Looks as if they are asking full price for his designs.

I feel for everyone that got screwed by this deceiver, but EVERYONE should know by now. Needless to say, I won't be giving my $ to this dealer. 2 wrongs don't make a right.
 

Hmmmmmmmmm…..

Hey kids. Can you say civil liability?

And Buck actually made the knives in the USA. They outsourced the sheathes.
 
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Interesting. Before anybody gets too worried, it says "According to the Buck Knives class action lawsuit, the company marketed its knife-sheath as “Made in USA.” Although the knives were manufactured in America, the sheaths were allegedly imported. "
yep its over the sheaths for the American made knives. those sheath were made in Mexico labeled as made in Mexico on them. its not the knives. its a lawyer money grab game.......

the funny part is I prefer the Mexican made sheaths over the USA made ones they are using for some knives now.

wasn't really hidden either.....unlike hoback the sheaths were labeled as such.
 
I guess all the Hoback holders can at least breathe easy knowing that Jake Hoback really has worked with titanium here and there, and didn't blame the manufacturer he contracted when he got caught.

I guess it's better (?) that he chose to blame the customers he's ripping off for not understanding that all the flags he was throwing around were really red ones.
 
Should I still have a custom Kwaiback made?


I’ve been asking and begging for a lefty Kwaiback for years. It’s always been one of my favorite knife designs.

I can’t make this up but Jake emailed me like a week before this fiasco began asking if I’d like a custom Kwaiback made.
I was going over the options back and forth on emails. Then radio silence and I saw the Instagram post. Fast forward to this Monday, he finally responded. Apologized for the delay and asked if I was still interested.

I’m torn. I still love the knives but I’m unsure. The hobbyist in my wants to get one, however the realist in me says run! Basically like I’m buying a used car. Value will be half whatever I pay the day I take delivery. Feel like we are talking Barry Bonds. Yeah he was a beast but he will always have that asterisk on his name that he used roids. I’m rambling..

Also how USA made are the customs really? Guess I’d never know that answer? If I could somehow verify they are 100% made I’d feel a lot more confident.

A custom is a LOT of money. Possibly the most I’ve ever spent on a knife so I think I have answered my own question. It’s just too much money to spend with the current situation.

I feel like my middle school crush just laughed at me when I asked her to the dance.
 
I’ve been asking and begging for a lefty Kwaiback for years. It’s always been one of my favorite knife designs.

I can’t make this up but Jake emailed me like a week before this fiasco began asking if I’d like a custom Kwaiback made.
I was going over the options back and forth on emails. Then radio silence and I saw the Instagram post. Fast forward to this Monday, he finally responded. Apologized for the delay and asked if I was still interested.

I’m torn. I still love the knives but I’m unsure. The hobbyist in my wants to get one, however the realist in me says run! Basically like I’m buying a used car. Value will be half whatever I pay the day I take delivery. Feel like we are talking Barry Bonds. Yeah he was a beast but he will always have that asterisk on his name that he used roids. I’m rambling..

Also how USA made are the customs really? Guess I’d never know that answer? If I could somehow verify they are 100% made I’d feel a lot more confident.

A custom is a LOT of money. Possibly the most I’ve ever spent on a knife so I think I have answered my own question. It’s just too much money to spend with the current situation.

I feel like my middle school crush just laughed at me when I asked her to the dance.
I wouldn't do it, personally.

Most US customs are 100% made in the US by the maker, by hand.

The issue here is, how do you trust Hoback after what has transpired?
 
I wouldn't do it, personally.

Most US customs are 100% made in the US by the maker, by hand.

The issue here is, how do you trust Hoback after what has transpired?
100% this. I'd also argue there's a disincentive to reward Hoback with future business based on his shady BS regarding COA. He's down there in QTRMSTR and Survive! territory for me -- the forsaken land. ;)
 
I’ve been asking and begging for a lefty Kwaiback for years. It’s always been one of my favorite knife designs.

I can’t make this up but Jake emailed me like a week before this fiasco began asking if I’d like a custom Kwaiback made.
I was going over the options back and forth on emails. Then radio silence and I saw the Instagram post. Fast forward to this Monday, he finally responded. Apologized for the delay and asked if I was still interested.

I’m torn. I still love the knives but I’m unsure. The hobbyist in my wants to get one, however the realist in me says run! Basically like I’m buying a used car. Value will be half whatever I pay the day I take delivery. Feel like we are talking Barry Bonds. Yeah he was a beast but he will always have that asterisk on his name that he used roids. I’m rambling..

Also how USA made are the customs really? Guess I’d never know that answer? If I could somehow verify they are 100% made I’d feel a lot more confident.

A custom is a LOT of money. Possibly the most I’ve ever spent on a knife so I think I have answered my own question. It’s just too much money to spend with the current situation.

I feel like my middle school crush just laughed at me when I asked her to the dance.

I absolutely wouldn't do it. At this point, you'd need to demand video of him actually making the knife in order to believe it wasn't yet another Guongdong Special(TM).
 
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