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Balls_tothe_Walls (Heath Helton) is a scammer

Discussion in 'Hall of Shame' started by thtieu, Dec 19, 2017.

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  1. bhyde

    bhyde UNNECESSARY EVIL Staff Member Super Mod Moderator Platinum Member

    Mar 19, 2002
    Insulting other members is not what we do here..Discuss the subject and not each other.


    I don't understand the mentality of "I was hax0rd"..then I will make this all right..then continue to trade and sell knives without letting people that were affected know what was going on. Your creditors need communication to extend trust. Heath went dark with nary a word while continuing on about his business IIRC..
    See where creditors may have a problem with that?
     
  2. JohnWE

    JohnWE Basic Member Basic Member

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    Dec 7, 2013
    Next time you see Heath, ask him why he's not flipping burgers at the Sonic drive in in Kansas any longer.
     
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  3. JohnWE

    JohnWE Basic Member Basic Member

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    Dec 7, 2013

    For someone who claims not to believe anything you sure seem convinced.

    Funny that...
     
  4. Foghorn Leghorn Fan

    Foghorn Leghorn Fan Platinum Member Platinum Member

    653
    Jul 27, 2011
    Gastonknife and others posts got me to thinking and it appears to me that the Thief / Scammer Heath Helton, is now raffling knives to ensure he does not become a victim of his own scam. By using the raffle to sell knives any claim by the Winner / Buyer of having their account hacked would be limited to ONE raffle entry (assuming most people buy just one), substantially less then the full cost of the knife.

    Thieves know how thieves operate.
     
  5. s4mpson

    s4mpson Gold Member Gold Member

    158
    Mar 11, 2017
    Ok, we're cool then. I have no reason to be dicky to you and vice versa. It's not as if there aren't other loops I'm involved with discussing this whole saga. Though there are so many variables. This whole thing is a shitshow, and every shit show story has three sides; the two parties involved and then the truth. People get so heated they create bad blood between two people who have nothing at stake in the situation and have no real involvement. Then the vitriol starts to seep out and spill onto other things, like people getting down on other people they know nothing about in the raffle sub. People looking for targets to unload on, I want to minimize my exposure to that.

    Apologies for calling you a douchebag.
     
  6. s4mpson

    s4mpson Gold Member Gold Member

    158
    Mar 11, 2017
    We cleared it up, I can only take so much passive-aggressive snide <REDACTED> before the only appropriate response is "<REDACTED> you".

    I'm keen on observation, I will continue to observe.
     
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  7. s4mpson

    s4mpson Gold Member Gold Member

    158
    Mar 11, 2017
    Never met him, likely never will.

    What am I convinced of? Please elaborate, you seem to have it all figured out.
    It was an honest question, it's imagining putting yourself in someone else's shoes; it helps you gain perspective.
     
  8. timw1

    timw1 Swamp Yankee Platinum Member

    317
    Sep 28, 2011
    Why would anyone stick up for this guy Heath Helton? The guy bought knives through PayPal using his credit card to the sum of $$$ BIG BUCKS. He tells his credit card company that his card got hacked and that he did not make the said charges. It becomes convoluted because of the credit card company and PayPal being two different institutions. PayPal protection for the seller is limited due to Helton using a credit card and the sellers are now out their knives. This POS then tells everyone his credit card was hacked (playing the poor victim) and assures them they will get their money. People believe his story, feel sorry for him (lol) and start buying (stolen) knives from him. Helton now has the knives he stole which he is raffling for 100% profit. In the end Heath Helton will be known world wide in the knife community as a liar and a thief. The only people paid back were given stolen knives! Go ahead and believe otherwise, if you do you are foolish.
     
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  9. bhyde

    bhyde UNNECESSARY EVIL Staff Member Super Mod Moderator Platinum Member

    Mar 19, 2002
    You need to observe the rules on the forum you are participating on. As a family friendly forum, there is only one place this language is acceptable and it's not here.
    Try Whine and Cheese. My suggestion is to edit out the language I am speaking of and I will edit it out of my quote of you.
    I extend newish members some latitude..please take care of that.
     
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  10. s4mpson

    s4mpson Gold Member Gold Member

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    Mar 11, 2017
    Interesting, I'm surprised that's the first time I swore on here, I will absolutely edit that.
    Do members have to be over the legal age to own knives on the forum?

    Do you also take the time to ride the plethora of other members who cake on the passive-aggressive shots? Or is it ok to constantly discuss each other, but in a snide and passive manner?
     
  11. bhyde

    bhyde UNNECESSARY EVIL Staff Member Super Mod Moderator Platinum Member

    Mar 19, 2002
    It's not possible for the mods to read every post in every thread. The language is reported and that is what we react to for the most part. That part is directly against the rules.
    Don't make this about how old members have to be and drawing some correlation that doesn't exist..It was a verbal request and I was not being snide or otherwise offensive in my request.

    I am not riding you, I promise..Passive-aggressive responses are not directly against the rules, but do feel free to hit the triangle in the corner. We can and do often act when we need to. Mostly, it's about discussing the subject of the thread. When it goes sideways and involves name calling or vulgarity? That is when we have to do something.
     
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  12. Postlapsaria

    Postlapsaria Gold Member Gold Member

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    Dec 7, 2017
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    Not sure how to interpret this, but it looks like he is buying or trading knives now. If that is the case, that is screwed up. It's one thing to raffle/sell (hopefully non-stolen) knives in order to pay folks back. Buying new knives or trading knives that should be sold seems extra selfish.
     
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  13. stonesell

    stonesell Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 20, 2009
    Just judging from these names, they seem like an intelligent and sophisticated group of enthusiasts.
     
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  14. Jake_Lucas

    Jake_Lucas

    717
    Sep 21, 2012
    That takes the fear to a sad new level. Fortunately, I do have intimate knowledge of my original knife (or at least plenty of pics with its twin since my buddy and I got two from Josh at the same time)

    Edit: although I am not expecting anything from you or anyone, please don’t misunderstand.
     
  15. josh yu

    josh yu

    402
    Jun 14, 2017
    i came here to contribute to the thread. i came here to let people know i got a response recently, and cut deal a with him for what was owed to me, so that others who are still out money could try to reach out to him again. then i offered to return the knife to the rightful owner if anyone claimed it. people here are angry and taking it out on a guy who came to help.

    If you were owed money, and found out the person who owes you recently "paid" someone back? i sure as hell would like to know.

    also, the package was delivered, but i didn't get home til really late last night, so i didn't pick it up from my front desk. i'll update when i get home. let's see if i got a rock or a knife
     
  16. josh yu

    josh yu

    402
    Jun 14, 2017
    reddit is a scary place for those who don't know the ropes. having comical and dirty names is the meta in reddit. the knife subs are actually the nicest mannered subreddits i've been on.
     
  17. s4mpson

    s4mpson Gold Member Gold Member

    158
    Mar 11, 2017
    There was no implication with the age question, it was simply a question about policy. I've been around significantly longer than the join date but I never gave the age aspect a thought until you mentioned 'family'. Between my previous stints in these parts and now I've created a family, which makes one considerably more aware of all related facets. Would rather understand the rules prior to facing a ban stick.

    Yep, language is fairly straightforward and I fully respect it. Yea mods apparently have lives outside of internet forums (whoda thunk). I've seen some rather aggressive posts/arguments that cross the line into blatant ad hominem, though certain subforums are more heavily moderated than others.
     
  18. LastRodeo

    LastRodeo Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Nov 2, 2013
    Reddit is a scary place? From the posts I've seen lately, it was being painted as so much nicer than the viper pit here on BF.
     
  19. josh yu

    josh yu

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    Jun 14, 2017
    lol nice. this is my safe space now. you cant cuss me out here
     
  20. josh yu

    josh yu

    402
    Jun 14, 2017
    i mean... it was the home to /r/jailbait /r/fatpepeoplehate so yea, depending on the sub it's scary has hell. but yea the knife subs are very civil. @s4mpson is the second biggest asshole on the raffle sub. no hate here, he knows i mean it with love
     

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