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Buying a new Endura: PE, CE, or SE?

Discussion in 'Spyderco' started by masters2010, Nov 26, 2015.

  1. masters2010

    masters2010

    207
    Jun 7, 2014
    I'm buying a new Endura and I'm a bit on the fence of what sort of edge I should get. I've only really owned PE knives, but I hear Spyderco does it right. Would you recommend the SE Endura for a spot in my EDC rotation? Is the CE any good, or the worst of both worlds? Or should I just get the FFG and hope I don't slice my finger off?
     
  2. TravisH

    TravisH Gold Member Gold Member

    Sep 22, 2014
    IMO, a CE is useless. Not enough of the PE or SE to be effective.

    SE if you're going to fo a lot of coarse cutting, like carboard, rope carpet.

    PE is the most useful, especially for EDC.
     
  3. shunsui

    shunsui Gold Member Gold Member

    Aug 12, 2008
    I'd get the plain edge in an Endura and a Pacific Salt for a serrated edge.

    I'd skip the combo edge.
     
  4. The Dude1

    The Dude1

    405
    Dec 22, 2013
    I love my serrated Endura. I've got a combo edge Delica and I wish that was fully serrated. If you don't have a fully serrated knife the Endura is hard to beat. I wish the serrated version was available with an orange handle.
     
  5. sitka

    sitka

    129
    Dec 25, 2009
    Like it was said in an earlier reply, if you are cutting a lot of rope, cord or any fibrous material, the serrated edge is the way to go. I have carried a Police, Rookie or Native with a serrated edge for over 30 years. Give one a try.
     
  6. uxo2

    uxo2 Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 3, 2013
    PE why.

    Because when your serrations need resharpening
    again and again.

    Pretty soon all you have are nubs.

    And you have to buy a new knife.

    Combos. Maybe.
    But a Sharp FFG blade is perfect.

    Buy a ZDP in PE and be happy.
     
  7. nccole

    nccole

    Jun 2, 2011
    Normally I'd say no to CE's. However, when you start pushing 4" I think you end up with enough of each edge type. A CE Mili is actually pretty sweet. In an Endura sized knife I would not go fully started. Why? Because if I want full serrations, I'm going H1. So a PAC Salt is in order. I'd go plain edge or try out the CE and see how it suits you.
     
  8. on_the_edge

    on_the_edge Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 31, 2006
    I have a fully serrated Endura and I would not trade it for a plain edge ever. That said my plain edge Spyderco's are a GB, Para 2, and a Millie, so it is not as though I am without.
     
  9. seanp

    seanp

    130
    Jul 4, 2013
    Depends. I am a knife guy and I frequently sharpen my knives, so I edc the ffg endura. My wife is not a knife person, and she abuses the he'll out of her tools. The SE endura is perfect for her.
     
  10. ZuluKilo

    ZuluKilo

    255
    Apr 28, 2012

    +1
    Exactly my thoughts. And I'm with shunsui and Nccole, serrated H1 is the way to go serrated.
     
  11. vanslem6

    vanslem6

    Oct 4, 2014
    This, though my serrated knife is a Tasman. My Endura is the waved version.
     
  12. Lee48

    Lee48

    Apr 29, 2005
    The problem being when you unexpectedly come upon the need to cut something like carpet, rope, rubber hoses, plastic, etc., while only carrying a plain edge knife as an EDC. Oh, the PE will work but serrations make such work a whole lot faster and easier with less chance of messing up your razor sharp plain edge.

    I carried a fully serrated Endura for +/- 10 years. By the time I retired it, the serrations were worn down to just a wavy edge but they still cut well enough for any job I came across. While I would prefer a plain edge to a serrated edge these days, I own several combo edge knives and have been daily carrying a CE for the past few months. The partial serrations have proven to be highly useful on several occasions. I wouldn't underestimate their usefulness.

    There ain't no doubt a full plain edge would be preferable most of the time and a fully serrated edge would be more efficient at those times coarse cutting is required but having a combination edge knife is a compromise over carrying two knives.
     
  13. Surfingringo

    Surfingringo Gold Member Gold Member

    May 25, 2013
    This has not been my experience. I have a three year old Pacific Salt that gets used 7 days a week. It has been sharpened about twice a week since I received it which means probably a couple hundred sharpenings or more. I have never had to reprofile the serrations and have just micro beveled with the Sharpmaker. The serrations (and their points) are still in very good shape and all of them will still pushcut phonebook paper after sharpening. I guess they will wear down eventually but it will take me a couple of decades at this rate and I would guess that this knife gets an "above average" amount of use and sharpening.

    ETA: And to the OP's question, I would probably suggest a PE Endura and a SE Pacific Salt. I am fine with combo edges but don't really care for the 50/50 CE of the Endura.
     
  14. masters2010

    masters2010

    207
    Jun 7, 2014
    Why do you all recommend the H1 for SE over the VG-10?
     
  15. TravisH

    TravisH Gold Member Gold Member

    Sep 22, 2014
    H1 in SE is Spyderco's best cutter and holds a working edge longest, bar none.
     
  16. Surfingringo

    Surfingringo Gold Member Gold Member

    May 25, 2013
    H1 is also a very tough steel and easy to sharpen. Works very well with serrations. Its also a great excuse to get a completely rustproof and lightweight Salt!! :D
     
  17. mcblades

    mcblades

    81
    Dec 6, 2014
    For me its hard to go past the PE ZDP 189. You can get it super sharp, it holds its edge very well and can cut through just about anything. The only down side is that it takes a bit of time to sharpen but its not a problem worth worrying about.
     
  18. DocPyres

    DocPyres Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 17, 2014
    It all depends on your cutting needs, but if you haven't tried a fully serrated Endura, I'd say give one a try. I think you'll be blown away with how well it chews through everything in its path.
     
  19. on_the_edge

    on_the_edge Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 31, 2006
    What scientific data supports this assertion or is this just your personal opinion? Can you provide a link?
     
  20. 115Italian

    115Italian

    Nov 13, 2015
    My FFG endura in VG 10 is great. The endura slices awesome with its thin blade that is larger than advertised.
     

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