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Bad Chris Martin AKA Phantom Steelworks!

Discussion in 'FEEDBACK: The Good, The Bad, The Ugly!' started by mquez, May 11, 2017.

  1. Loops

    Loops

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    Jul 8, 2017
    I figured at this point there's not much else I can do. Kinda hoping that if enough of us file a complaint, maybe the FTC will then do something.
     
  2. Crikeyyy

    Crikeyyy

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    Dec 14, 2019
    "Phantom Steelworks"

    What a perfect name. Vanished to the neatherrealm
     
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  3. Dragon_Man

    Dragon_Man Gold Member Gold Member

    Apr 26, 2003
    I have been here for going on 17 years. And seeing these kind of posts all of that time. You don't learn!
     
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  4. Joshua Carter

    Joshua Carter

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    Jan 10, 2019
    Team, I know a lot of you have struggled getting these knives. I have a few dubs from back in the day. If anyone wants one I’m more than willing to make a trade. Really so sorry for what you guys have been through.
     
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  5. 10after10

    10after10 Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Oct 30, 2013
    This is what Phantom "Puke" Works knives remind me of.....

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  6. Khris6278

    Khris6278 Gold Member Gold Member

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    May 4, 2020
    Just read this entire thread, any updates?
     
  7. Loops

    Loops

    164
    Jul 8, 2017
    Nope, not for my situation.
     
  8. Undefeatable

    Undefeatable Gold Member Gold Member

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    Feb 28, 2015
    None here too. I hope the guy is in jail, but I am sure he's scamming people in another industry.
     
  9. mquez

    mquez

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    May 27, 2013
    UPDATE: I started the thread years ago still no knife. People claiming they received knives I find that hard to believe, being new accounts and all.

    Wish I could say I moved on with my life 100% but I think im at about 90% moved on. Still remember when I paid upfront using Paypal and not filing a claim before the time was up.

    I have not heard from Chris even after starting this thread. Maybe I'll email him for old time sake and the LULS!
     
  10. Khris6278

    Khris6278 Gold Member Gold Member

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    May 4, 2020
    Sorry to hear that. Is he still even making knives?
     
  11. Undefeatable

    Undefeatable Gold Member Gold Member

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    Feb 28, 2015
    Funny you mention that. Since I am getting back into knives I started thinking about this too. Same exact situation. I actually emailed him last week just to test the waters. Nothing yet (as expected). I still feel like an idiot for 1) Paying upfront 2) Not getting PayPal involved before the 90 day limit. I guess hindsight is always 20/20, but it still hurts to think about my missing money. I have tried looking for him through Google, and his name is so generic that it's hard to come up with anything. Also, I don't even know what his face looks like, so that also makes it harder to track him down.
     
  12. Khris6278

    Khris6278 Gold Member Gold Member

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    May 4, 2020
    Its a shame to see a really talented knifemaker be such a POS
     
  13. Undefeatable

    Undefeatable Gold Member Gold Member

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    Feb 28, 2015
    It really is. This was the only custom knife I ever commissioned because I liked his work that much. After that incident I got turned off to the whole knife world as a whole. Even to this day, I don't care about custom knives anymore. I would rather have a factory made knife that I can trust the company to be there.
     
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  14. Thomas Linton

    Thomas Linton

    Jun 16, 2003
  15. Undefeatable

    Undefeatable Gold Member Gold Member

    323
    Feb 28, 2015
    So I know of that one, but its untouched since 2016 and there's no info on it. I was looking to see if he had an alt account on there on IG or something too.
     
  16. andre1

    andre1

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    Jan 20, 2010
    For the amount of money here discussed I would make a personal visit to his house. Old school here.
     
  17. brute steel

    brute steel

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    Jan 27, 2018
    I see a lot of hillbilly, redneck country boys starting knife business, but does not have a clue on how to run one.
     
  18. Undefeatable

    Undefeatable Gold Member Gold Member

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    Feb 28, 2015
    Not worth the money spent or jail time hahaha. I would love to know how much money he has stolen though. I know only a few of us have posted on this thread who are out money, but I am sure there are much more who are out a lot.
    I think people who have never run a business should just stick to making knives, then selling completed projects. I don't understand how many knife makers get themself into holes with pre-ordering and then give up. I was part of the problem by pre-paying mine, but I will NEVER pay a cent before I see a final product now. Live and learn I guess.
     
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  19. Thomas Linton

    Thomas Linton

    Jun 16, 2003
    A "completed product" "seen" on line, may exist, and if it exists, may be delivered.
     
  20. Mitchell Knives

    Mitchell Knives Knifemaker Moderator

    May 21, 2000
    That's the trap that many makers run into. They post a few knives on Instagram and pretty soon they have more orders than they could possibly fill in a reasonable amount of time. What makes it worse is that they take payment up front. Orders go unfilled and refunds never happen; they just up and disappear. It makes all knife makers look bad which is a shame.
     

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