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Bad Chris Martin AKA Phantom Steelworks!

Thomas Linton said:
The FTC has jurisdiction over consumer fraud but shows zero interest in "small" cases. They acknowledged my complaint and assigned it a case number - on 01/10/2018. Not a word since.
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I figured at this point there's not much else I can do. Kinda hoping that if enough of us file a complaint, maybe the FTC will then do something.
 
Team, I know a lot of you have struggled getting these knives. I have a few dubs from back in the day. If anyone wants one I’m more than willing to make a trade. Really so sorry for what you guys have been through.
 
This is what Phantom "Puke" Works knives remind me of.....

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UPDATE: I started the thread years ago still no knife. People claiming they received knives I find that hard to believe, being new accounts and all.

Wish I could say I moved on with my life 100% but I think im at about 90% moved on. Still remember when I paid upfront using Paypal and not filing a claim before the time was up.

I have not heard from Chris even after starting this thread. Maybe I'll email him for old time sake and the LULS!
 
mquez said:
UPDATE: I started the thread years ago still no knife. People claiming they received knives I find that hard to believe, being new accounts and all.

Wish I could say I moved on with my life 100% but I think im at about 90% moved on. Still remember when I paid upfront using Paypal and not filing a claim before the time was up.

I have not heard from Chris even after starting this thread. Maybe I'll email him for old time sake and the LULS!
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Sorry to hear that. Is he still even making knives?
 
mquez said:
UPDATE: I started the thread years ago still no knife. People claiming they received knives I find that hard to believe, being new accounts and all.

Wish I could say I moved on with my life 100% but I think im at about 90% moved on. Still remember when I paid upfront using Paypal and not filing a claim before the time was up.

I have not heard from Chris even after starting this thread. Maybe I'll email him for old time sake and the LULS!
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Funny you mention that. Since I am getting back into knives I started thinking about this too. Same exact situation. I actually emailed him last week just to test the waters. Nothing yet (as expected). I still feel like an idiot for 1) Paying upfront 2) Not getting PayPal involved before the 90 day limit. I guess hindsight is always 20/20, but it still hurts to think about my missing money. I have tried looking for him through Google, and his name is so generic that it's hard to come up with anything. Also, I don't even know what his face looks like, so that also makes it harder to track him down.
 
It really is. This was the only custom knife I ever commissioned because I liked his work that much. After that incident I got turned off to the whole knife world as a whole. Even to this day, I don't care about custom knives anymore. I would rather have a factory made knife that I can trust the company to be there.
 
For the amount of money here discussed I would make a personal visit to his house. Old school here.
 
I see a lot of hillbilly, redneck country boys starting knife business, but does not have a clue on how to run one.
 
andre1 said:
For the amount of money here discussed I would make a personal visit to his house. Old school here.
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Not worth the money spent or jail time hahaha. I would love to know how much money he has stolen though. I know only a few of us have posted on this thread who are out money, but I am sure there are much more who are out a lot.
brute steel said:
I see a lot of hillbilly, redneck country boys starting knife business, but does not have a clue on how to run one.
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I think people who have never run a business should just stick to making knives, then selling completed projects. I don't understand how many knife makers get themself into holes with pre-ordering and then give up. I was part of the problem by pre-paying mine, but I will NEVER pay a cent before I see a final product now. Live and learn I guess.
 
Undefeatable said:
Not worth the money spent or jail time hahaha. I would love to know how much money he has stolen though. I know only a few of us have posted on this thread who are out money, but I am sure there are much more who are out a lot.

I think people who have never run a business should just stick to making knives, then selling completed projects. I don't understand how many knife makers get themself into holes with pre-ordering and then give up. I was part of the problem by pre-paying mine, but I will NEVER pay a cent before I see a final product now. Live and learn I guess.
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That's the trap that many makers run into. They post a few knives on Instagram and pretty soon they have more orders than they could possibly fill in a reasonable amount of time. What makes it worse is that they take payment up front. Orders go unfilled and refunds never happen; they just up and disappear. It makes all knife makers look bad which is a shame.
 
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