Elusive Schrades

That is just an amazing knife, Lyle!! Zings my heart strings!!
 
Thanks Lyle for your kind comments on my little Schrade collection! Wow that Schrade you have has it all:thumbup: I love the peach seed bone, the blade etch, the bar shield, the pinched bolsters everything about it exudes quality, substance and mechanical functional beauty. Thanks for posting the pictures since I never expect to find one:dispirited: Lloyd
 
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Further to the discussion of S-stamped Schrade barlows, I found this one recently. I noticed before I purchased it that the tang stamps of the main and pen blades were different (main: Schrade/Cut.Co./Walden, N.Y., pen: S.C.Co./Walden) and the main blade had a long pull which I had not seen before on S-stamp barlows except on single-blade knives. I suppose it could have been original and made that way since the tang stamps existed during the same time period. But I think a more likely explanation is that the knife was re-bladed at some point using a salvaged blade from a the same era despite having a different tang stamp. However, there are no marks to suggest the knife was ever disassembled.

Regardless, the knife was lovely and seemed mostly original so I bought it and I'm quite pleased with it. I think this is one of the things that make collecting old knives so interesting. I was surprised however, how little information there is available on these particular knives. What's the hypothesis of the various Schrade experts here on how this knife came to be?
 
Atiger, I think your hypothesis is likely or it could have been a transitional knife where they were using up the S script bolsters with later blade components with Schrade Cut Co. long pull spear and the straight line S.C. Co. over Walden tang marked pen. If it was re bladed with the long pull spear Schrade Cut Co. tang marked spear it could have happened 80 to 90 years ago. Hopefully someone who owns the S script bolster Barlow will respond more precisely to your inquiry. There are a few I know of on this forum who own one. Either way or some other way it is a beautiful Barlow that I would love to own. Congratulations on a very hard to find Barlow:thumbup: Lloyd
 
wlfryjr said:
Tiger you should show us a full picture of that beauty.

Lloyd you got some lovely knives out west.

Here is my elusive example. I have posted one like this a couple years ago,albeit not in this condition.Excuse me for plagiarizing from my post in the Roosters and farmers jack thread.

This one eluded me from the start of my collecting this pattern. It was the one I was after. I never believed I would be blessed to find an unused ,unpolished or rubbed,original(what there is) finish etched example. We like them like that,the original finishes and grinds are a part of the history,as much as everything else. That is why I'm opposed to doing anything to the knife but removing dirt, rust,stains, et al. It's about having today what it was then,it's an amazing thing to be able to actually look back 50-100 years or more... Letting history be true,not what we want it to be,or making it a little more or less rosy.I'm not opposed to removing stains,dirt,rust,or even substituting manufacturer's original parts in some cases.But to each his own.:)

When I posted the other well used example like this,I explained how rare this pattern is ( with the rooster comb [bark loosener] and flat blades) .There are no plunge lines on the backsides of the blades,they're flat. Why the shadows of them are there,I haven't figured out yet.The pruner blade is more robust than the standard style of the other Schrade farmers jacks.

I have only seen pictures of 4. Rich Langston has a worn one and the picture of the one in the Schrade factory collection,I am blessed to have the other two.One I posted previously.

This one is unused, an etched Peter Henderson and Co,and with a bar shield,I feel very blessed to have gotten it.I really like this one.

The semi-rainbow on the blade is from the crocus finish being scanned.

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Just had to carry this over Lyle, what an elusive treasure you have found!!! FANTASTIC in every way:cool::thumbup:
 
Luger1952 said:
Here are four elusive Schrades. The top three (3) are Cut Co and the bottom one is a Schrade Walden. From the top EE single spring two blade spear, Lobster, split spring whittler and a 2 blade congress. All are three to three 1/4 inches in length.



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Every one a jewel Lloyd !!!!

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Thanks Paul,there was one other out there from the Schrade collection, but we may have to look a long time to find another.

Here is the other mint one as photographed by Rich Langston before the Schrade inventory was auctioned off.It has the standard Schrade shield,and no visible etch,otherwise it is identical to mine.It may have an older style jigging also??

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Augie started a thread on a Grail 2OT that he acquired a week or so back. I, like Augie have searched for said knife on and off for sometime as well. Ironically I found one on the auction site shortly after Augie's thread. I hit the "make an offer" button and it was accepted.

Full and solid blades, great covers and coined brass liners, what else could I ask for:o

I'm very happy to have this one, elusive? For me it was and now I can peacefully persue other knives on my list:thumbup:

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Im just going to bump this up - because if I had been able to get a 2OT - I'd want the world to see :D:thumbup:
Congrats Paul on such a find - that is what knife collecting is all about!
I', Pretty sure that if I scored a knife like that Paul mate- a tear would well lol - darned sure no one would see it though!:o

I hope I get my jobs done today so I can take some photos and put them up in Trads!

I was EXTREMELY lucky and stunned to receive a beautiful - and what I consider a top-of-the -line knife - very much like this 2OT of Pauls, Schrade made Peachseed Boned beauty! - which isnt stamped Schrade - but it's Schrade made-so hopefully time is on my side today to be able to do some shots.

Man I love this Thread
 
Paul, just saw this and glad you got it, I was just going to make an offer on that one when the one I got popped up. The one you got is a beauty and has better coined liners than mine. Even though the 2OT's were supposed to have coined liners I have found examples without them, wonder if Schrade got a little careless when grinding or buffing when the knives were assembled.
Congratulations on adding a very beautiful knife to your collection.

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Duncan and Augie, thanks both. I'm really happy to have scored this knife. It is quite a thick, well built jack knife:thumbup: It seems as if in the past I was either short on funds or the last one to find out the 2OT was for sale. The stars were aligned this time around:o
 
Paul, I wondered who the lucky person was that scored that beauty! Isn't that the folder that started the whole OT phenomenon? I know it copied an earlier Schrade pattern and it has been copied or been the basis for some modern traditional patterns. Couldn't have gone to anyone more deserving.:thumbup: Happy for your good fortune. Always wonderful to find and score one you have been on the hunt for. You and John (Augie) to both find one in such close order is really something because you don't see them for sale very often. Congratulations, Lloyd
 
Luger1952 said:
Paul, I wondered who the lucky person was that scored that beauty! Isn't that the folder that started the whole OT phenomenon? I know it copied an earlier Schrade pattern and it has been copied or been the basis for some modern traditional patterns. Couldn't have gone to anyone more deserving.:thumbup: Happy for your good fortune. Always wonderful to find and score one you have been on the hunt for. You and John (Augie) to both find one in such close order is really something because you don't see them for sale very often. Congratulations, Lloyd
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Thank you Lloyd, I held my breath waiting for the owner to reply to my offer, this time it worked in my favor and I'm thankful for that. I think your correct in regards to the 2OT launching the Old Timer line. I also like comparing this to the Washington Jacks. The 2OT is a bit shorter but yet a little wider. Both such GREAT knives.

TsarBomba, those are such work horse knives:thumbup: I had that knife and also the smaller 175 frame. If memory serves on the 175 blade there was an etch that read "Wunda" cutter or something along those lines? Very nice knife you have there:thumbup:
 
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Thanks, Paul. It sure is built like a brick outhouse. I'm going to need to get a rig that can sharpen serrations, though. Some cleaning and maybe a coat of wax on the handle should have it right as rain for carrying after that.
 
waynorth said:
We can't go a whole page without some purty pitchers!!
At some point in the Schrade Cutlery story, serrated edges appeared, and Schrade put their "Wonda-edge" on several patterns. Here are a few; a small "premium" rope knife, one with, one without, from a rope company, and two Muskrats, one serrated on the mark blade, and one on the pile.
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Here are some Wonda-edges for your perusal, TB! When sharp they help in cutting multi-strand rope i am sure!
 
Had the top knife in the picture Charlie, thanks for posting that, although it makes me realize how foolish I was to sell it on the bay:o:mad:
 
paulhilborn said:
Had the top knife in the picture Charlie, thanks for posting that, although it makes me realize how foolish I was to sell it on the bay:o:mad:
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I wish I had a nickel for every time I have had seller's remorse, Paul! But think of it as making somebody happy, then it's easier to let it go!

There are a few out there that used to reside here, but I am beginning to realize I can't collect them all!! Who would I talk to if I did??:eek::rolleyes:
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I owned a Kutting Rope NY SCHRADE WALDEN as well - I think I may have posted it in this Thread earlier at some stage - not as early as Charlies?- possibly a brother on the production line with Tsar's example -man it was MINT!
I too share Paul's remorse- on Many Many knives!

Edit - I've just looked through again ( at this page only ), Oh Man just LOOK at that bottom knife in Charlies scan photo above - Peach Seed heaven! What a stunning knife!
 
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