Thank you Chris for looking into this. In case anyone else at SOG is interested, here's a quote from another forum from Jean Lum, Bob Lum's widow on her thoughts about the SOG Fielder design:
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Hello to all:
As Bob Lum's widow, I am the owner of all his designs. I hope to always maintain the integrity and legacy of my late husband and his beautiful work.....of coarse I am very biased.
As for the SOG saber tip type folder, yes that looks like a Lum design....do you think I'm getting royalty checks? Fat chance...... and I would never do anything about it because that was not Bob's way, as many of you know.
But what comes around, goes around or whatever that saying is.
Jean
Stealing designs and "Original ideas", is wrong and I will (like most of you) never buy another sog (yes, small case letters now)
American companies complain about pirated products from Hong Kong, China, Taiwan, etc., but then sit on a "high horse" here and do the same thing to another American company.
I know a lot of businesses have gotten "dirty" (everything from dumping toxic waste in public areas to..., stealing another designs), but what I see below is one of the most disgusting things someone can do to someone else...,
And that is to steal from a widowed woman.
sog obviously did not ask to use Bob Lum's designs, all they saw was another chance to rip off someone else and this time it was not just another big company, this time it was a widow of a very talented knife designer with original ideas and innovations, so, what does sog do?
RIP's off the design of a dead man and his widow!!!
I always wondered how low a company would stoop for the love of money..., to me, this is about as low as you can go!!
(even "if" Mrs. Lum received a royalty check, at this point, it would ONLY be because of bad publicity and like big business, "Paying to keep things hush, hush", NOT because it was the right thing to do.
To do the "right thing", you ASK..., "Before" you TAKE from a widow..., or anyone else for that matter)
I guess after seeing people take advantage of others since grade school and trying to stick up for them..., the underdog..., seeing a large company TAKE from a widow..., well, that is about as low as you can go and I will NOT support such a "group of people", if you can any longer call them "people".
I have some earlier sog knives, but will never own another one, some of the reasons are listed below-
I do not support STEALING
I do not support STEALING From WIDOWS
I do not support STEALING From DECEASED Designers
I do not support STEALING From other Company's.
You can call it whatever you want, lots of legal terms, loop holes, etc, etc, HOWEVER, to good, honest folks, STEALING is STEALING no matter how you name it, no matter how you "pretty it up", no matter how you look at it.
To good, regular people, right is still right and wrong is still wrong.
Even "if" sog decided to make a public apology, send everyone a free knife, write royalty checks to those that were Ripped Off, to me, that would not make it right..
What were you thinking..., Ripping Off a Widow!!!
How Low Can You go!?!?!?!
That, in and of itself shows the mentality of sog,
That, in and of itself shows the morality of sog,
That, in and of itself shows what sog thinks of YOU,
Did they think You would be too stupid to know?
I do not know the legalities, however, I do know right from wrong..., I do have a conscience..., I do have compassion for people, especially people grieving & widows
It looks like someone else does Not..., Obviously!!
I could go on and on..., this whole "Ripping Off Widows" thing from a company that if anything, "should" be trying to help the grieving, not Taking from the Grieving.
THIS JUST SICKENS ME and sure many others that know there is companies out there that would take advantage of Widows..., I am pissed!! That "could" be Your Mother, Wife, Sister, etc.
I do not care how good there designs "may" become in the future, the sog knives I currently own are all the sog knives I will ever own.
I DO NOT SUPPORT such behavior!!
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