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Discussion in 'General Knife Discussion' started by wacki, Apr 25, 2019.
I was always more partial to the Gunblade myself...
In my world, we go on 2 different kinds of backcountry trips. The first is super casual. Low miles. Food that requires preparation. A flask of whiskey. Plans on making fires. That sort of thing. On trips of that sort, I take a chopper, saw and fire stove. Lots of fun.
The other kind of trip is more along the lines of what OP posted about when talking about 20 miles days. Long miles. Challenging terrain. Finely honed packing lists and counting ounces in order to make the agenda. No fires. No need to cut/chop/split/whittle food. No knife needed for food prep.
IME, if you're carrying more knife than a simple SAK when you're in the woods, it's because it and things you can do with it make you happy. You don't *need* it to stay safe.
As I noted in my first post in the thread, for racking up 20 mile days, I think just about any 2 oz knife will do if combined with a key chain sized multitool.
I have to disagree with that ... yes on a short trip you may take more in weight and creature comforts ...
but on a long trip you NEED the methods to process wood and food and fire ... there isn't the option of hollaring "help" ... or that someone will wander by ... it's a safety/survial matter ... not what do I like to carry ...
it's those long trips you need the equipment and if 5 or 6 ozs or even an extra pound or two makes or breaks you then you shouldn't make that trip.
Depends on where I'm going as that dictates my blade choices, but lately I've been carrying the Bugout and a Mora on my backpacking trips that are weekend stuff.
For the more backcountry stuff and longer trips, I tend to carry "beefier" knives though. Usually something from Esee/Tops/etc. Not that the Mora/Bugout can't do it...I just have waaaaaaaaay too many knives.
I totally disagree with you. I carry the same stuff whether I'm 5 miles or 20 miles into the woods. I build fires whether I'm a 1/4 mile from my vehicle, or 20 miles. It's nice that you have what works for you, but like I said earlier, what works for you may not apply to everyone and be insufficient for someone else. Please don't tell us that your way is the ONLY way to do things, as that is clearly not the case. You can't speak for everyone here...
Endura ZDP-189 3.3 Oz.
It would be interesting to find out what Steiger and later Messner carried on their ski crossings of Antarctica. They were certainly in a not calling for help sort of situation but I'm pretty certain that they didn't carry tools for processing wood.
Conrad Anker reportedly carries a Bladeo. Not what I call very robust, but they are light.
considering there isn't wood in the Anrarticia ... I'm sure they didn't ... but I'm sure they had fuel and a of stove some sort ... for heat and food prep and boiling water as eating snow only dehydrates you more from your body having to work to stay warm feeding ice into your system.
A SAK huntsman or similar would be the best choice in my opinion.
For lightweight backpacking you really don't need more than that.
That knife will handle any task you face.
Carrying a fixed blade is not necessary and usually you would bring a small multitool anyway.
I been using a carbide edge ti knife in my shop for everything for a couple years, cutting everything! It doesn't sharpen itself though. Got a belt grinder for that.
This right here. If you aren't capable of humping a few extra ounces then you shouldn't be doing the trip.
Adding a 9lb rifle plus ammunition to my trips generally means I have to give up counting ounces.
After following this thread I have come to the conclusion. .
A, carry what you want, what works for you.
B, don't think you are going to convince anyone else your way is better.
Here are my picks:
opinel - 1oz
esee izula red fire ant - 1.90oz
delica - 2.5oz
I feel some type of blade is always needed, unless you don't mind using rocks that are scatter around. You can use those after chipping them thus making them pretty sharp like native Americans did.
But, I rather just toss in a sharp blade and know that in a pinch, I can build a house with it lol
Im gonna suggest a neck knife type knife for your purposes. An Esee Izula or Izula 2, or a Tops Tibo (a bit cheaper, arguably better). There are lots of choices here. For a pocket knife/backup I would suggest a Swiss Army knife of some kind. I like the Camper. A SAK is great because its a whole tool kit in your pocket and the tweezers are great if you get a tick on you. If thats too heavy, though the keychain ones are truly tiny, then you could go with an Opinel. Theyre feather light, and cut like crazy.
For a more traditional knife, try a bird and trout style knife and a stockman or scout knife for backup. Good luck.
Last time I went to Philmont I took my leatherman. Never used it. Being that I like a knife, I now carry my opinal 6. Going this weekend and may take a mini fox river..just because. Last month I took my PM 3. Because it was newish. Actually used it and it worked well.
I guess much of it comes down to the objective of the trip.
If you plan on spending the nights around a campfire, then a more sturdy knife, perhaps paired with a folding saw would be a good idea.
If you don't plan on making a campfire, then the SAK is all you need. I advocate for a SAK over an Opinel, because of the additional tools in it.
Spyderco Enuff Salt. Small and tough, virtually maintenance free.
My old school hunting, camping, hiking, fishing, etc. fixed blade is the Spyderco Bill Moran drop point, around 3 ounces, great for field dressing game. Comes with a very sturdy sheath. I have traipsed more miles over hill and dale than I can ever remember and it has done the job for many years for me.