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Rough Rider & Related Slipjoints

Discussion in 'Traditional Folders and Fixed Blades' started by dalee100, Sep 10, 2008.

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  1. Jolipapa

    Jolipapa Basic Member Basic Member

    Jun 4, 2015
    Smashed a pumpkin today, love that soup!

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  2. tstaut

    tstaut

    589
    Jan 6, 2012
    Picked up a few from Rough Rider's new line, called "Old Forge."

    All three needed significant flushing of the joints. The ram's horn ones are cool looking but I'm not sure they'll see a lot of use. We'll see after I get them broken in. F&F are not great - seems like "old world craftsmanship" makes a nice, easy excuse for gappy liners and springs.

    The lockback with the copper and really pretty burl, however, is a definite keeper for me!

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  3. Jack Black

    Jack Black Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 2, 2005
    What is the steel Tstaut?
     
  4. tstaut

    tstaut

    589
    Jan 6, 2012
    No idea.

    I would assume the lockback has the same steel (440?) as other RR's. The construction seems to be of the same quality, F&F are as good as any rough rider I've handled. It's my only RR lockback but I wouldn't be surprised if this is new materials on an existing frame. I have to add I LOVE the copper pins and liners! It really is a handsome knife!

    The ram's horn ones, I think, were made in a different factory. Side play, gaps, almost dangerously vague half-stop on one, none that I can detect on the other. the ram's horn ones also have worked liners.
     
  5. jc57

    jc57

    Nov 28, 2012
    "Forged steel" on the ram's horn
    "Surgical stainless steel" on the lockback

    That's from the web site of the vendor who has those made.
     
  6. The Burgh

    The Burgh Basic Member Basic Member

    484
    Jan 22, 2015
    "tstaut"

    Thanks for the above comments and picture for the Old Forge folder.

    I am a sucker for wood, figured burl in particular. Even if it's a laminate (especially at these prices).

    Bought both the OF026 (3.25" blade) and the OF028 (2.375" blade). Both of these have the slanted/grooved copper bolsters.

    I'm not sure that the "Old Forge" lineup sits within the RR brand. None of the sites I visited had OF branded with RR.

    Warning: Several purchase sites have confused and transfixed the model numbers and have even thrown in the non-slanted bolster version for extra befuddlement.
     
    Last edited: Dec 8, 2015
  7. GasMan1

    GasMan1 Gold Member Gold Member

    May 27, 2015
    I really like the look of those. Thanks for sharing.:thumbup:
     
  8. Jack Black

    Jack Black Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 2, 2005
    Thanks for the info guys :thumbup:
     
  9. tstaut

    tstaut

    589
    Jan 6, 2012
    Perhaps I'm one of the befuddled, but I assumed they were by RR as that's the brand under which I found them at that big mountain site, and also, the anvil logo looks like a clear brand extension - I'm a marketing guy by trade and immediately recognized the anvil on the tang stamps and logos from some of RR marks.

    Anyway, the lockback screams RR to me; the other ones seem like they were jobbed elsewhere. Even the familiar RR edge is present on the lockback and not the others.
     
  10. afishhunter

    afishhunter

    Oct 21, 2014
    Thanks for the heads up. Guess the rams horn old forge knives are off the want list.
     
  11. The Burgh

    The Burgh Basic Member Basic Member

    484
    Jan 22, 2015
    I stated above: "I'm not sure that the "Old Forge" lineup sits within the RR brand."

    Still not sure (and making no claims of knowledge nor insight), but "tstaut" is correct. The mountainous purveyor of our beloved RRs does, indeed, fit the "Old Forge" line within the RR brand. Others - and there aren't many - do not.

    RR or not, I'm looking forward to receiving and inspecting the FO026 and FO028.
     
  12. The Burgh

    The Burgh Basic Member Basic Member

    484
    Jan 22, 2015
    Just bought this - awaiting delivery.

    Seller stated that he is unsure of the RR #, but is sure that it is a Copperhead (not a mini or a small) and that it is currently out of production.

    Anyone know?

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    P.S. Please, if you post a picture of a Rough Rider, include the RR #. If ZT, Benchmade, Buck, GEC and other fans can do it, so can we!
     
    Last edited: Dec 8, 2015
  13. Sonny14

    Sonny14

    252
    Dec 5, 2014
    I think Old Forge is under the RR "brand", but may be built at another facility. Here is a useful site that contains links to who owns who as far as brands go, (scroll down to the bottom for various links), including a link of reviews for RR knives: http://apg2k.hegewisch.net/.
     
  14. afishhunter

    afishhunter

    Oct 21, 2014
    Interesting read. Thank you for the link.
     
  15. sh00ter01

    sh00ter01

    Sep 26, 2007
    Hmm, unfortunate to hear the 'Old Forge' line isn't up to the same standards as RR, they have a great look to them.

    I've been carrying a Steel Warrior Whittler as of late...
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    Only own a few Steel Warriors, but in my experience, they're right there with RR in terms of bang for buck.
     
  16. T. Erdelyi

    T. Erdelyi Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 3, 2001
    Jerry Bear loves Rough Rider's Sunfish. (~);-}

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    Last edited: Dec 9, 2015
  17. The Burgh

    The Burgh Basic Member Basic Member

    484
    Jan 22, 2015
    Above, "sh00ter01" pictures a SW and likens the value he finds in it to RR.

    I have been curious about the Steel Warrior line and Frost Cutlery in general. Searches for SW here on BF produce scarce information. In general, here and elsewhere, Frost draws neutral-and-below comments.

    Narrowing to SW, at generally twice the cost of RR, have any of you had experiences with SW that you might compare with RR?
     
  18. jdracing

    jdracing

    Sep 25, 2006
    Well,I hate to admit it,but when I firtst started this newer copy of trads i bought several SW...I've had,and still have some
    that are very good quality controlled knives....But,I've had some,seen some that were not too quality controlled...My worst
    complaint is dirt left in the liners for the blades to rub against opening and closing....it's hard to get it out,sometimes it's
    impossible to get it out....It feels real gritty when closing.....Most of the ones I have now are very good fnf....i gave the
    others away few years ago.....I've also had some really good feeling Frost in general,but the SWs are one of their top of
    the line models......They have a few others with diff name badges,same knives Im betting....The one sh00ter01 has posted is
    one of my favorite bone materials from SW.....Is that the Mojave?...If not,it's similar.....

    The Burgh-Message me at email below...I have several i'll send you pictures of.....They'll all be nice ones....If I have any crap left
    I'll send pics of those as well.....
    JD
    [email protected]

    p.s.if the link to photobucket is still in my signature you'll see some nicer ones....
     
  19. sh00ter01

    sh00ter01

    Sep 26, 2007
    I haven't bought any other Frost knives, only have a few from the Steel Warrior line. They do cost a little more, I always wait for a sale or free shipping on them. Otherwise, yes you could have 2 RR for the price of 1 SW (depending on model of course). Just looked back and this one ran me $11.69, not too bad.

    'Butter Rum Bone' is what they call it. Guess I've been lucky with mine, they've all been great, though the springs on the Whittler did need some breaking in. They were pretty strong to start, especially the main blade.
     
    Last edited: Dec 10, 2015
  20. Rich S

    Rich S

    Sep 23, 2005
    Just ordered the Old Forge Lockback and hammered knives as well as the Colt hammered blade lockback.
    Now broke - please don't post anymore neat knives that I will have to acquire :)
    Rich
     

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