Survival knife ?

on_the_edge said:
The handle width on the SK looks pretty beefy, especially next to the FK. I don't have small hands by any measure, but I really love how the FK feels in my hand. I hope the SK will feel as good.
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It has to feel pretty good. It's called the Fluffer! 😂
 
Nathan the Machinist said:
Whoops.... *grin*
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You know, this is going to stress out these young lion pups like Colied and Justin because that's missing from their collection... So, I'll join you and double up on that WIDE GRIN :D

P.S. Hey you two, Uncle Matty still luvs you both lil t*rds!
 
I missed that one entirely, a medium chopper, huh? From everyone's reaction, sounds like info on it is being held close to the chest, with it's mention maybe intended to be a teaser for starts?
 
Im not worried about beefy, as much as the hump on the back, and that very rear angle. Wish it was more like Becker bk7. You can make the handle at a slight angle compared to the blade, but not put that palm hump in the back, which creates a hot spot for me. Like the LC has.

IMO it does nothing to aid in chopping. I know the hump and angle is supposed to be there to aid when grabbing the knife with two fingers in the back in order to have more leverage, but personally I never hold my knife with two fingers.

Also the bottom where the fingers wrap around, the FK has a nicer sorta S curve to it, where the front finger indentation is equal to the rear, whereas the LC is shaped like you can put 3 fingers in the front, and the rear one just kinda hangs there.

In other words I wish the bottom of the handle was shaped like the FK, it is far more comfortable. Like a Becker bk7 basically.

As far as the width of the handle looking from the top, I think the one in the picture is about perfect. If he goes any thinner, he'll probably have to give out separate spacers for people that have big hands.


I really like the custom thickness of the blade, and materials/heat treat, but if the handle ends up being thin in the front hump in the back, I'll probably have to wrap some cord around the front in order to make it the same width as the rear (looking at the side of the handle). Something that Lorien showed in one of his photos/similar.

Unfortunately, that still wont help me with the hump.



Last 3 years or so, I have gotten away from the "One knife option" that I use to have for years, based on YT reviews, etc.. but after having a decent amount of time actually in the field, Ive found that "One knife option" simply ends up being a pain in the ass. So recently Ive started following the (cant remember his name, Irish guy friend of Dave Canteburrys friend from Boston on YT) mentality. and just not worry about the extra weight in my pack, in order to have a peace of mind/better experience, when Im actually camping.

So basically I carry as many knives for diff. tasks, depending on how many tasks I think I will have. I.e. Bird and Trout for birds and fish, 8+ blade chopper for chopping, and either 5-6" hunter for skinning or whittling wood/utility, personally I prefer to have a 6-8" for utility, and it can be used as a skinner if need. Something like a Bark river Bravo 1.5 or 2, which I used to have.

So going forward Im planning to have a chopper, NC Sk (hopefully) for most things/utility/batoning if needed, and maybe a nice bird and trout from (several guys have posted really nice ones for sale recently)

Ive also gotten away from using ferro rods. Like most people I started with a walmart cheapy magnesium block, and learned from experience, why a $35 rod is worth the money. The last one I had was awesome, but even at that, it is nowhere near as (not so pain in the ass to start a fire when the tinder is slightly damp) as a lighter. Ive realized that the older I get the less patience I have for stuff not working according to plan/easily.

As far as lighters getting wet,etc.. is mostly bull. Ive tested them by submerging them under water, (for a period of time) etc..you just gotta wait for the flint to dry out (2 minutes) Besides, Academy/Amazon sell rubber cases for Bic lighters for like $13 which work awesome. Ive tested those as well. They work. On top of that, I usually have like 3 lighters anyway.(when going camping)

I dont have patience anymore for anything less than perfection. Thusly the knife comment. If it creates hot spots on my hand, even tough its a great steel,etc.. I'll just get a diff. knife.


P.s. No disrespect meant to anyone.. just IMO/bored
 
The LC handle is shaped the way it is so you can slide your hand to the back for better chopping, that swell right at the back helps keep it in your hand when swinging. Then you can choke up on the front and get better control. It's almost like two handles in one but not quite. Personally using it like that I love it. Trying to be right in the middle doesn't work for me. I have size 10 hands for references.
 
I am really looking forward to the Survival knife! I have I yet to find a six to 7 inch blade that could be classified as a "Chopper"! In Short there is not 1 Knife available that can successfully accomplish all tasks needed in a "True Survival Situation"! Like I said really looking forward to this offering! Would buy a couple, Many articles have been written on this subject and Personally I would take the LC and FK in a real world scenario! Cheers!!!
 
Survivorman23 said:
Im not worried about beefy, as much as the hump on the back, and that very rear angle. Wish it was more like Becker bk7. You can make the handle at a slight angle compared to the blade, but not put that palm hump in the back, which creates a hot spot for me. Like the LC has.
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The hump simply fills the palm of my hand better and leads to less forearm fatigue when I do extended chopping. For me.

Looking at the BK7 :

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A straight handle like that might nest better in a sheet (for the steel) or allow the knife to fit in a smaller bar and is more simple to model, and I certainly understand everybody has different hands and preferences, but to my hand such a straight handle like that doesn't work as well in extended chopping. Please understand our handles are not shaped the way they are for stylistic reasons or aesthetics, it is purely an ergonomic pursuit, though I don't expect it could ever be perfect for every person. My personal preference is to avoid knives with a straight spine, I find them uncomfortable, and a design like that puts a lot of work on the pinky which starts to hurt my hand after a while.

But it sounds like you've spent a lot of time coming to your conclusion, so I do respect your opinion. :thumbup:
 
Its not a deal breaker by any means. I know for a fact that the vast majority of people looking to get one of these knives from you, would get it if it had no handle scales on it at all. Simply for the nice grind angle, and heat treat.

Albeit, prob. at a slightly lower price.

I have zero doubt, that this thing will sell even faster in larger quantity than all previous knives.

Which is slightly annoying to be honest.

So make more than 20 please.

:D
 
I have often modified handles to suit me better
 
Casinostocks said:
Young man! Don't you start on me or I'll have to hop on a plane, parachute down on BC-Can and put you over my knees and give you a spanking. I already have to deal with this other guy hopefully by tomorrow, who just randomly went ad hominem by calling me a "beech" earlier up thread, so like I said you don't get on the wrong side of Uncle Matty!

So... Squeeze me?! I am the one used to pocket anchors?! :confused: I dumped the Sebies plus everything else which was literally pulling my pants down while cutting like shyte! I'm only EDC'ing PM2s these days which barely weigh 3.7 ounces soaking wet. That "anti-Reaganite" poster ought to turn himself loose on you Shiro 0.01%ers instead of poor Ol' Bentzer who is merely accused of being a 1%er :p
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Mr. Casino, I was trying to imitate Rick James. He was always saying, my names Rick James.....beech.
Nothing personal brother. :)
Or were you yanking my chain?
 
Kootaga13 said:
Mr. Casino, I was trying to imitate Rick James. He was always saying, my names Rick James.....beech.
Nothing personal brother. :)
Or were you yanking my chain?
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Mr. Kootaga12+1: evidently, I am not up-to-date with some past (and present) popular cultural references!

My apologies and no harm, no foul. Jerking your chain? Nah, that task is only at the behest of one Mr. Lorien Arnold, master of chains :)
 
12+1, dude, you crack me up. 13 is my lucky number.
Go to YouTube, type in Rick James saying, my name's Rick James.....beach. You'll see what I mean.
I don't know Lorien enough to crack on him.
 
Casinostocks said:
Mr. Kootaga12+1: evidently, I am not up-to-date with some past (and present) popular cultural references!

My apologies and no harm, no foul. Jerking your chain? Nah, that task is only at the behest of one Mr. Lorien Arnold, master of chains :)
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'Master of Chains'- I like it
 
on_the_edge said:
The handle width on the SK looks pretty beefy, especially next to the FK. I don't have small hands by any measure, but I really love how the FK feels in my hand. I hope the SK will feel as good.
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I would like to second this :thumbup: . The field knife is one of the most ergonomically pleasant and efficient knifes that I have ever had the pleasure to own. I know the survival knife is a larger design intended for larger tasks, but if I have a vote, avoid the trendy palm bloat syndrome going around and stay close as close as possible to the field knife. :)
 
Since these knives are pretty much made one at the time would it be possible to have some without the fuller ?
I bet other people may also want that option
 
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