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The "Ask Nathan a question" thread

Discussion in 'Carothers Performance Knives' started by JustinFournier, Aug 30, 2016.

  1. Brian77

    Brian77 KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Nov 27, 2014
    This is highly exciting news .....
     
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  2. Standard78

    Standard78 Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 25, 2015
    It would be nice to have a pretty set of scales to swap on a BC when it isn’t being used.
    That edge cut would probably look better than Osage or Butterscotch because it’s such a big blade.
     
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  3. stjones

    stjones Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Feb 23, 2010
    Yes it is!!!! Come to daddy HDFK so I can beat your ass silly!!!!
     
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  4. Casinostocks

    Casinostocks Factotum Platinum Member

    Mar 20, 2016
    Nathan, do you belt carry your Behemoth + Grog sheath or have you rigged some sort of other adapter for it?
     
  5. gusbuster

    gusbuster Gold Member Gold Member

    Aug 30, 2011
    Man that antique edged cut micarta sure looks good! It goes great with Grog’s awesome dragon sheath too! I might have to order a set if they become available. I got Tero Tuf and an extra set of buffed nat micarta.
     
  6. duramax

    duramax KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Nov 29, 2012
    " Nathan "

    Well I don't even have an HDFK in hand yet. But I can't help but wonder, with all the talk how great the handle is. Is there a possibility we could see this knife with an 8 inch blade ???? HDFK 2 big camp version ??? Was just a thought as 2018 approaches and it all ready looks like a great lineup coming :) :)
     
  7. JustinFournier

    JustinFournier Gold Member Gold Member

    May 7, 2012
    Hi Nathan or Jo,

    Would you be willing to share some of the testing circumstances where the 4V LC experienced failure or damage, chipping or denting up into the primary bevel etc?

    Contemplating putting one into service.

    Thanks very much!
     
  8. TommyGun56

    TommyGun56 Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 29, 2014
    Nathan, Believe you stated the next Pre-Order would be tentatively scheduled for December 29th, Is this still a go? Have you decided what (knife) will be offered?

    Thanks
     
  9. Lorien

    Lorien Moderator Moderator

    Dec 5, 2005
    Nate and I have talked in the past about a proper camp knife in the 8" blade range. Personally, I prefer designing things holistically, so if we were to do a larger knife, I'd approach it fresh. The handle would probably look very similar, but it wouldn't be the same
     
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  10. duramax

    duramax KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Nov 29, 2012
    Thank you for ^^^
    That makes sense, I just figured with such a well loved knife and handle. That adding some blade length would be the next step. But a camp knife from scratch but kinda similar sounds perfect :)
    Thanks again
     
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  11. Standard78

    Standard78 Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 25, 2015
    This would be a cool piece.
    Something similar to the ASH 2 or a longer GSO 7/7.
     
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  12. CataD

    CataD Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Oct 2, 2013
    Would like to see that too :)!!

    Just for fun.. SHe2 (don't have an ASH2 - 9" blade), GSO 7/7 and CPK HDFK. The SHe2 has a 7.5" blade, 7/7 has a 7.25" and HDFK 6.5". Sorry for the quality of the pic.

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    Cheers,
    C.
     
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  13. Standard78

    Standard78 Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 25, 2015
    Nice group of knives bud.

    That HDFK is surprisingly bigger than I thought! It looks so streamlined compared to what I’m used to.
    That 7/7 looks like it could be a stabby bugger and the SHE2 looks like a beast.
     
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  14. Casinostocks

    Casinostocks Factotum Platinum Member

    Mar 20, 2016
    I'm going to make a statement based on my observation which I hope does not turn into a controversy but as I'm a CPK fanboy, here it goes:

    Note the high saber grind on the HDFK as opposed to the other two. I don't know the stock thickness of the other two, but assuming that the GSO and the HDFK will be more or less about the same thickness and the Busse traditionally a tad thicker, I can state with utmost certainty that the HDFK will prevail in cutting and slicing with its 20 dps factory edge. As for hacking and batoning, the Busse being the bigger and the heavier blade may win the day but I can not fathom that the HDFK will cr*p the bed sheets either! As for clean lines, just notice the smooth radial line (I forgot the name of it) of the HDFK and then the Busse as compared to the sharp drop off on the GSO.

    So what am I saying? You tell me but you ought to get one :p
     
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  15. Hard Knocks

    Hard Knocks Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 1, 2012
    Do I win a prize if the word plunge is somewhere in the answer? :confused:
     
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  16. Karoi

    Karoi Unobtanium Member Gold Member

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    Sep 7, 2014
    This is one of the many reasons why CPKs are top notch IMO.....so much thought goes into each and every model.
    When certain other designers/craftsmen create a different sized model, it seems like they sometimes just “copy and paste” from an existing one!
     
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  17. Standard78

    Standard78 Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 25, 2015
    I agree.

    The HDFK looks like it’ll out slice both while still being able to split material.

    That SHE2 just looks like a tank. Maybe it’s the shallow saber grind or the black coating that sets it off.
     
  18. Nathan the Machinist

    Nathan the Machinist KnifeMaker / Machinist / Evil Genius Moderator Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Feb 13, 2007
    Both size and weight. The BC is 12" and 1/4", the MC is 10" and probably going to land somewhere around .215. The MC is similar to the old HC with some shape tweaks, narrower grind angles and some handle development.
     
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  19. Nathan the Machinist

    Nathan the Machinist KnifeMaker / Machinist / Evil Genius Moderator Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Feb 13, 2007
    Some variation like that isn't impossible but our whiteboard is pretty full right now so I can't say.
     
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  20. Nathan the Machinist

    Nathan the Machinist KnifeMaker / Machinist / Evil Genius Moderator Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Feb 13, 2007
    4V is stronger and less tough, so there is less damage, but it tends to be more catastrophic when it happens. It will shrug off things that would dent 3V, but when it crosses its tipping point you get a blowout or a break. I've had one chip out in concrete and broken one cutting though a 1/2" hardened steel bolt. It's an alloy used in competitions because it doesn't show damage that would get points deducted. This allows you to go thinner. Thinner is faster.

    Don't be afraid to use it. In normal use it will see less wear and damage than D3V. I use one here pretty frequently. Trimming the hedge and cutting the ends off cigars etc...
     
    Last edited: Nov 28, 2017

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