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What Survive Knives Are You Waiting For?

Discussion in 'Survive! Knives' started by Sulaco, Jul 14, 2017.

  1. chiral.grolim

    chiral.grolim Universal Kydex Sheath Extension Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Dec 2, 2008
    I am pretty sure the 4LE's are only in 20CV and the big 10 & 12 are only 3V, but for both 4.1's and the 3.5 I went for D3V - in my tests of the stainless vs 3V S!K blades, I have been happier with the edge performance of 3V and I've been wanting to try out Nathan Carother's Delta-3V efforts, so I stuck with that. I have a tendency to use my knives pretty hard, so the specs on 3V appeal to me, and I am just not sure I need the abrasion-resistance afforded by 20CV in most tasks... I may come to appreciate it on the 4LE's however, since they are said to be ground much thinner to be better slicers, and as such they may end up being used in incidentally wet environments a lot (butchering livestock, game, nuisance woodchucks, etc. ;) )
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  2. chiral.grolim

    chiral.grolim Universal Kydex Sheath Extension Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Dec 2, 2008
    Seriously, I really should not own so many similar blades, so I will definitely be looking to pass some along when they all do arrive ;) Got a preference for sheath or scale color?
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  3. Oyster

    Oyster Gold Member Gold Member

    Aug 2, 2011
    Ha! I hear you.

    I may have to pick up a 3.5 in D3V later on. For now I ordered it in 20CV because I thought of it as more of an edc blade.
  4. Sour27

    Sour27 Gold Member Gold Member

    May 26, 2017
    That's exactly what I ordered and I'm at 215 days around. I would honestly cancel it asap before you have to deal with what I have to. I'm not trying to be an asshole to any knife Manufacture I hope tomorrow all the knives get sent out. But I honestly at this point don't ever see you getting your knife. Maybe by mid 2018.

    Anyway good luck to you
  5. Uncle Timbo

    Uncle Timbo Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 23, 2005
    You know Chiral, first of all, not a slam to you in any way, shape, fashion, or form, (I've ALWAYS considered you a friend/brother) but I don't know the Survive terminology, so bear with me.
    I have an "old school" 4.1 in 3V that I've had for awhile. She has the jimping, and ferro notch and neon green slabs.
    The point I'm trying to make is, IF, and I do mean IF, I get a newer version 4.1 in 3V off of you, would you 've interested in my older one or would I just offer her up hete for a brother or sister?
    Also.....whats the big difference between them if allowed to ask here?
    Thanks....uncle timbo
  6. scout1sg


    Nov 9, 2009
    For those of you that have managed to stay up on things, can someone tell me the order in which the Starters came out? I remember the 4.7 and the 3.5 around early APR2015 (possibly a little sooner), I can't remember if several other models were part of the Starter at the same time.
  7. Fancier


    Jul 1, 2012
    The Starter orders were all closed at the same time.
    Preorders then continued for all of the models.
    The 5.1 preorders closed in May 2015, 4.7 June 2015, 2.7 Sept 2015, 4.1 Nov 2015, 7/7 Jan 2016.
    The first run of the 5.1 and the 4.7 are sold out, the other three are in production.
  8. Fancier


    Jul 1, 2012
    The new spec knives all have longer and more contoured handles. The old spec knives have straighter handles with flatter sides.
    The new spec knives also have a peened finish (that often looks like a coating in pictures) and the old spec knives have a stone wash finish.
    There were also some adjustments made to the heat treatment protocols for the new spec knives.
  9. Oyster

    Oyster Gold Member Gold Member

    Aug 2, 2011
    ^ This and (at least on some models - don't have them all in my head right now) the blades are a bit longer and taller. ASFAIK, overall blade thickness and BTE also saw some adjustments.
    Last edited: Sep 15, 2017
  10. chiral.grolim

    chiral.grolim Universal Kydex Sheath Extension Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Dec 2, 2008
    The fellows above replied about the spec-differences for older vs new-gen 4.1s, and nah, i wouldn't be looking to pick up one of the older models, but thanks anyway :thumbsup:

    So is it "ever" or "mid-2018"? o_O The guy just placed an order, 90 days from now is December 13th.

    The 4.1s are shipping out in regular batches and every once in awhile somebody on here is one of the recipients (not very often, there are thousands of 4.1 orders and a few dozen people who might be posting here about theirs). I am waiting on a long overdo 4.1 2nd as well, but I've received my 4.7, my 5.1, and before that I had NeckerII's that were long past the expected date that arrived, etc. etc.

    @Organic556 you can wait it out or run, it's up to you. Don't expect less than 90 days, though ;)
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  11. zakjak221


    Apr 3, 2010
    There are several order that are out past 120 days,which is why I cancelled this week.
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  12. LukeTheSpook


    Jan 2, 2015

    I hit 185 today. At this point Im at a crossroads. Roll the dice on getting a refund or "in for a penny, in for a pound" on the waiting times.
  13. Silver Needle

    Silver Needle

    Jul 14, 2014
    I'm in for the long haul on an SK 6, GSO 6, GSO 10 and GSO 12.

    @LukeTheSpook go with your gut on this. Nobody would blame you if you didn't feel comfortable waiting. Like I said, I'm in, but I understand not everyone is comfortable with that calculated risk.
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  14. Oyster

    Oyster Gold Member Gold Member

    Aug 2, 2011
    Tough call and I understand your predicament. I don't recall what you're waiting for, but as Chiral said, there are "thousands of 4.1 orders and a few dozen people who might be posting here", and S!K hasn't been providing production/shipping numbers, so it's really very hard to say. It does seem, however, as Chiral also said, that 4.1s are shipping in larger numbers and the fact that they have opened up orders for F2s gives me some hope that quite a few are in the pipeline. I suppose - again assuming you're waiting on a 4.1 - that my advice would be to wait a couple of weeks and hope that there will be some news to help inform your decision.
  15. LukeTheSpook


    Jan 2, 2015
    I'm waiting on two 4.1 seconds
    A 7/7 second
    A 4.1 ugly Betty
    Two 2.7 seconds
    A 6
    A 12

    I think that's it. So I've committed some serious coin.
  16. Silver Needle

    Silver Needle

    Jul 14, 2014
    There's plenty to read to inform yourself, so do what feels right and don't look back.
  17. XtianAus

    XtianAus Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 3, 2016
    I honestly feel Survive! will get everyone's knives out to them eventually and the company won't fail to the point where customers lose their investment. The time issue is what is the problem.

    I've waited a long time for the 6 so I'm sticking it out. I have a 4.1 2nd on order to which I will also just patiently wait for. But after that I won't buy anything anymore until things are fixed. I always knew time was an issue with S! but not to this scale.
    However I still do not have regrets placing the orders I have and would not do it differently if I could go back in time. I just don't think I'd do it again once my orders arrive, unless issues are resolved.
  18. ATJ999

    ATJ999 Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 12, 2013
    ^ So you think that even if the company went under, that Guy would still send out the knives he has in-house? I sure hope so!!! That would be a pretty crappy thing to do, keep all the product people payed good money for! I would even get a couple jobs so I could keep working to get the people those knives!
    I just ordered(on top of my factory 2nd, 2X-7/7's and a 4.1) a first 2.7 when they popped up, a 20CV 4.1, and an Ugly Betty 4.1 when they popped up in the past few weeks. Fingers crossed. I am 5+ months out on my first orders.
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  19. XtianAus

    XtianAus Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 3, 2016
    If the company went completely down i'm not sure about where our knives would end up... I just personally don't think the company will go down.
    And knice list :thumbsup: Hope you/we get them sooner rather than later. My 4.1 is also in 20cv and 6 in 3V
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  20. Sour27

    Sour27 Gold Member Gold Member

    May 26, 2017
    So good news kind of. Survive knives finally got back to me About the email I sent to them that stated I was opening a dispute against them. Then emailed me back today saying that I will be getting a full refund and they won't be taking the 10% restocking fee since they didn't make the 90 day deadline they once told me. They said it might take some time for the FULL refund to go threw but they guaranteed me it will go threw. So hopefully this is true and they will keep their word and give me the full refund soon enough.

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