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Why does it seem like no one like the Spyderco Southard

Discussion in 'General Knife Discussion' started by snrubwr, Jul 6, 2018.

  1. brandoak


    Aug 1, 2015
    I've seen Sal complain about designs getting changed/FUBARed once they hit production, makes me wonder if this is another example.
  2. BladeScout

    BladeScout Basic Member Basic Member

    May 16, 2010
  3. cchu518

    cchu518 Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 6, 2013
    For me it fell almost I to a ZT category so why not just get a ZT...and also it didn't quite perform as well asy other Spydercos...too heavy, blade too thick, didn't cut as well, didn't carry as well.
  4. Moxy

    Moxy Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 30, 2011
    I think most people on this forum underestimate just how strong hardened steel is. As a result there has been a huge influx of "overbuilt" folders in the last decade. They're not my thing. I've never been a fan of ZT for that reason. It is very unlikely to have a blade break like that. But even so I agree it could have been designed better. No doubt thats why the Southard had such a thick blade to begin with.
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  5. palonej

    palonej Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Aug 5, 2015
    C8083730-055D-4A35-A2FE-990CDA12A70E.jpeg Never had any problems with mine and it’s one of my fave Spydies.
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  6. whp


    Apr 26, 2009
    Mine is extremely well made and flips well. The ability to open it with the thumb hole as well as by flipper is very important to me. The blade steel is better than that with most folders. I wish the handle were a bit longer, but many like a handle not much longer than the blade.
    While I don t carry it too often, I think it is a fine edc.
  7. Sharp Guy

    Sharp Guy Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 6, 2016
    I was on the fence about the Southard. Then they were heavily discounted when the went on the disco'd list and I couldn't resist. Mine has a strong detent so it flips great. No problems with the bearings, lock stick, etc and I find the handle shape to fit my hand nicely. I guess my only complaint is that I have to use the flipper tab to open it because the detent's too strong to use the hole. One of these days I'll get around to reprofiling mine and using it more.

    Last edited: Jul 8, 2018
  8. halden.doerge

    halden.doerge I'll Sharpen Your Knife Gold Member

    Aug 17, 2014
    Actually, not true on the CQI. I bought one from a dealer when they went on sale when it was discontinued. They definitely had upgraded the bearing system and added rigid steel washers. How you would ensure nabbing one of these later models may be a bit of a challenge, now that it’s discontinued, but some are out there.

    Mine flipped very well, had perfect fit and finish, not a hint of lockstick, and was delightfully thin behind the edge. I’ve also never found one where the Spydie hole wasn’t totally functional. I wound up selling it because, we’ll I wanted something else I reckon, but I still have a soft spot for the Southard and watch for them on the exchange.



    (Edge at 15 degrees per side, btw)
    Last edited: Jul 7, 2018
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  9. miltmaldo

    miltmaldo Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 5, 2012
    And to think that spyderco fanboys kept pushing the Southard over the ZT 0561 when it came out .
  10. lieferung

    lieferung Basic Member Basic Member

    May 24, 2016
    I love the look of the Southard. I miss the one I sold. One day when the time is right I'll get one again, and install the upgraded bearing cage. Just a cool classy knife.

    Any chance of a Southard 2? :D
  11. halden.doerge

    halden.doerge I'll Sharpen Your Knife Gold Member

    Aug 17, 2014
    I’d take the Southard over the 0561 any day. The 0562CF...not so much.
  12. Hackenslash

    Hackenslash Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Jul 25, 2014
    Good to know! I may see if I can get upgraded bearings for mine.
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  13. evilgreg

    evilgreg Why so serious? Gold Member

    Dec 25, 2012
    I carry one more often than not. It carries pretty small and light for how much blade it provides, and I love the ergos. I'm not a fan of the stock scale or pocket clip, but those are pretty easy to fix with all the options available.

    I like to switch up styles regularly, for the fun of it, and so I have a small pile of them. Here are a few photos:






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  14. halden.doerge

    halden.doerge I'll Sharpen Your Knife Gold Member

    Aug 17, 2014
    Great variations! Definitely reminded me of two of my favorite things about the Southard: superlative cutting edge to overall length ratio and extremely compact carry in pocket.

    The pocket clip is definitely a week point, but how the whole package carries is like a dream.
  15. katanas


    Jan 6, 2012
    evilgreg, you are living (I presume ;)) proof that "nothing exceeds like excess". :cool:
  16. BilboBaggins

    BilboBaggins Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 14, 2016
    Other than the abomination of a pocket clip (since replaced), I love mine.
  17. 99cuts


    Apr 18, 2013
    To answer the op bluntly: it doesn't cut, it doesn't flip.

    A bit more details:
    The blade grind is … tragic. And the spine is too thick. The pivot had the too thin washers. Not sure if new ones have new CQI pivots.
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  18. RLDubbya

    RLDubbya HMFIC

    Dec 21, 2016
    I have the all black version; I don't EDC it that frequently only because I find it to be an exceedingly aesthetically pleasing knife and I would hate to scratch it. It is my first choice in "dress flippers". It does everything a flipper should do: I can open it via my thumb and the Spydie hole, or the tab; it locks up early and solidly; centering is just about perfect; it flips easily and quickly; the blade steel takes and holds a nice edge.

    I've never had a problem with the bearings or anything else.
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  19. knoefz


    Mar 20, 2009
    Nice to see some more Southard love aroud here :D
    Mine does everything I expect a knife to do without any issues.

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  20. rpttrsn


    Nov 1, 2006
    Great Knife, never any problems with it. One of the best flippers I owned and I have many. I did dye the scales as I didn't like the brown.
    It was smooth as silk.
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