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You know, I should have stuck over here to begin with. This thread brings up many of the exact same points as the custom forum, but just doesnt have that stink of arrogance and rudeness to it which is the complete source of all this to begin with. I think the cordial and progressive discussion here is a perfect example of my answer to the topic of this post.
I am D-O-N-E posting over there. Its either my thin skin, my sickened reaction to certain personality types that might be more prevalent over there, or maybe just a little too much desire to stick it to a few people I consider dicks. It'll be for the best, as I am NOT fulltime, and by definition am more of a hobbyist than a businessman. Like I said over there, the day knifemaking feels like running a grocery store, I've lost the passion that got me interested in the first place. I think getting pissed when someone makes unnecessarily rude comments is completely fine. Some people are just dicks and its acceptable to treat them like dicks, even if they are knife collecting dicks. Just as they don't need to spend their money on my knives, as a hobbyist, i don't need to sell them my knives either. I have already once turned a collector down on an order after seeing now nitpicky and rude he was with a maker online, over a very low-end purchase. The buyer is the final judge and jury for a knife, but some judges expect too much for too little and a maker needs to decide if their skillset will satisfy their delicate likes and dislikes, regardless if if you are selling at much lower than what that collector usually buys. I perceived the "cost" of that knife potentially eclipsing its intent or worth, and as a result, said I thought they would be better going with maker A, B, or C at this time. I don't need to do business with some people, and it feels good to know I'm in control of who I associate with. This is much easier for a hobbyist like me than someone putting bread on the table, though. I dont think this was a bad choice at all, I've never regretted it. Theres "challenging yourself" and theres "walking into a fire wearing gas soaked clothing"...i saw the order as an invite to attempt option 2.
If some magical day I have zen transmission of the skills required to go fulltime, perhaps things will change!
Mike, your posts are what I always feel I want mine to be, but lack the wisdom or skills to write-up.
Nick, im glad you are so well received, and it does us makers good to have someone so liked speak up.
Lastly, I think Wild Rose has hit on something important in that the most famous knifemakers of our day could be those that are shunned from a forum like the custom forum. Innovation is almost never accepted into a mainstream right away, but almost always drives the mainstream of tomorrow, and thats something to be remembered.
I guess this is a good ole' "kumbaya" post in regards to the makers forum. Maybe I just "belong" here, and its not because I think my knives aren't good enough for the custom forum. Ive posted a few knives there and all were received very well. Its more how others have been treated that has turned me off. Its not about me.
I am D-O-N-E posting over there. Its either my thin skin, my sickened reaction to certain personality types that might be more prevalent over there, or maybe just a little too much desire to stick it to a few people I consider dicks. It'll be for the best, as I am NOT fulltime, and by definition am more of a hobbyist than a businessman. Like I said over there, the day knifemaking feels like running a grocery store, I've lost the passion that got me interested in the first place. I think getting pissed when someone makes unnecessarily rude comments is completely fine. Some people are just dicks and its acceptable to treat them like dicks, even if they are knife collecting dicks. Just as they don't need to spend their money on my knives, as a hobbyist, i don't need to sell them my knives either. I have already once turned a collector down on an order after seeing now nitpicky and rude he was with a maker online, over a very low-end purchase. The buyer is the final judge and jury for a knife, but some judges expect too much for too little and a maker needs to decide if their skillset will satisfy their delicate likes and dislikes, regardless if if you are selling at much lower than what that collector usually buys. I perceived the "cost" of that knife potentially eclipsing its intent or worth, and as a result, said I thought they would be better going with maker A, B, or C at this time. I don't need to do business with some people, and it feels good to know I'm in control of who I associate with. This is much easier for a hobbyist like me than someone putting bread on the table, though. I dont think this was a bad choice at all, I've never regretted it. Theres "challenging yourself" and theres "walking into a fire wearing gas soaked clothing"...i saw the order as an invite to attempt option 2.
If some magical day I have zen transmission of the skills required to go fulltime, perhaps things will change!
Mike, your posts are what I always feel I want mine to be, but lack the wisdom or skills to write-up.
Nick, im glad you are so well received, and it does us makers good to have someone so liked speak up.
Lastly, I think Wild Rose has hit on something important in that the most famous knifemakers of our day could be those that are shunned from a forum like the custom forum. Innovation is almost never accepted into a mainstream right away, but almost always drives the mainstream of tomorrow, and thats something to be remembered.
I guess this is a good ole' "kumbaya" post in regards to the makers forum. Maybe I just "belong" here, and its not because I think my knives aren't good enough for the custom forum. Ive posted a few knives there and all were received very well. Its more how others have been treated that has turned me off. Its not about me.
