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Discussion in 'Spyderco' started by uofaengr, May 13, 2015.

  1. JNewell

    JNewell

    Nov 18, 2005
    Yes, much more precise than most of the alternatives.
     
  2. k_ozdragon

    k_ozdragon

    291
    Feb 14, 2015
    The clip side pivot screw is the one that's locked in, don't try to turn it. You turn the presentation side

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  3. k_ozdragon

    k_ozdragon

    291
    Feb 14, 2015
    Damn, I've taken apart quite a few pm2 and *never* have I seen red loctite on them. I almost didn't believe you until I saw the pics lol. That's crazy

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  4. Danke42

    Danke42

    Feb 10, 2015
    Lock side pivot screw? it is drilled ambidextrously.
     
  5. 91bravo

    91bravo Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 29, 2008
    All spydies are different. ON the 52100 Millie, it's the presentation side that's stepped and you adjust from the clip side....
     
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  6. k_ozdragon

    k_ozdragon

    291
    Feb 14, 2015
    Yeah but on the pm2 it's presentation side

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  7. k_ozdragon

    k_ozdragon

    291
    Feb 14, 2015
    It looks that way, but one of the screws is notched and doesn't turn. On the pm2 it's the one on the clip side.

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  8. hhmoore

    hhmoore Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 7, 2014
    I don't remember if my standard issue (black G10/s30v) had loctite; but my blurple s110v did.
     
  9. ejames13

    ejames13

    753
    Mar 30, 2015
    I don't understand what you're saying. The pivot bushing is notched on one side, but neither screw is notched and both are adjustable. The purpose of the bushing notch is to prevent the bushing from spinning when turning the screws... regardless of which screw you turn.
     
  10. ejames13

    ejames13

    753
    Mar 30, 2015
    Again, the notched bushing has nothing whatever to do with which screw you can adjust. Neither screw is "locked in". You can adjust both.
     
  11. 91bravo

    91bravo Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 29, 2008
    I don't mess with the stepped side screw. I always tighten it down basically to set it and forget it. I always adjust the non-stepped side because the stepped side is more temperamental. And besides, when you tighten the stepped side, it just tightens the bushing down onto the washer against the liner. The non-stepped side tightens the liner against the washer against the blade, which has better adjustment for the tension of the blade action.
     
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  12. ejames13

    ejames13

    753
    Mar 30, 2015
    The bushing is stepped on both sides. The only difference between one side and the other is that one is notched with a small flat portion to keep it from spinning. Both sides have screw, scale, liner, washer, bushing, blade. So I can't see how it makes a difference which side you adjust.

    Maybe pics will be helpful here. (These are not my photos).

    Here's a picture of the bushing, stepped on both sides:
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    Here's one of the notch on the left side of the bushing. Note the flat portion.
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  13. 91bravo

    91bravo Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 29, 2008
    Yeah, maybe I worded my post wrong. What I meant by stepped, was that notch. Personally, just how I re-assemble, I always put the notched side of the bushing with the washer in first and lock-tite it in place.. Now the liner, washer and bushing are basically one "assembly" so to speak. I adjust the other screw, which pulls or looses this "assembly", tightening or loosening the action of the blade. Am I making any sense? I can't really put into words, but my notched side of the bushing always gets lock-tited and never gets touched again.
     
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  14. ejames13

    ejames13

    753
    Mar 30, 2015
    I get what you're saying now. :thumbup:

    What I don't get is k_ozdragon saying there's one screw that's "locked in" and you shouldn't try to turn it... :confused:
     
  15. 91bravo

    91bravo Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 29, 2008
    Maybe he meant that one of the screws was lok-tited in very tight and that's what he meant by "locked in"
     
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  16. jbmonkey

    jbmonkey Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Jun 9, 2011
    yep. i didn't take mine apart but i tried to tighten the pivot as their is a hair of side to side play and it's red locktighted and it's not gonna budge to loosen or tighten. very disappointing. i
    ll have to rectify that myself and reuse blue as should be used for a pivot.
     
  17. Rusty_shackelford

    Rusty_shackelford Gold Member Gold Member

    May 3, 2013
    can't imagine why they used red. i guess they ran out of jb weld.
    :)
     
  18. k_ozdragon

    k_ozdragon

    291
    Feb 14, 2015
    They all have loctite, but I've never seen the red loctite on one. Red is the permanent loctite. Usually blue is used.

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  19. speedseeker

    speedseeker

    433
    Nov 3, 2011
    Ok this explains things. I tried adjusting the pivot a bit and had the darnedest time. I decided to stop to ensure no stripped screws. Guess I'll have to try the solder iron idea.


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  20. k_ozdragon

    k_ozdragon

    291
    Feb 14, 2015
    I suppose I shouldn't say it "doesnt" turn. As has explained, the bushing is notched on that side. So turning that screw serves no purpose unless you're completely taking the knife apart; however even if that's the case it would still the the last screw to remove. If you loosen it to adjust the pivot, then ghe bushing can come lose. If it gets too loose it'll spin and offset the pivot and scales. It needs to remain tight, so pivot adjustment is done by the non-divot side. Basically it's a screw that never needs to be touched or adjusted. Also, Spyderco tightens this screw very tight to hold the pivot in place. As such, many people damage the knife trying to remove it. Many others also hold both screws believe in god that if they don't they can't loosen them from the pivot, which is obviously not the case and makes the job much more difficult. Plus if you do happen to loosen this screw first, you cannot remove the other without holding the pivot somehow and possibly damaging it. So basically that side of the pivot is "locked in" and should never be touched unless you are doing a full disassembly and removing the scales.

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