Eikverang:
It is fine for you to guess and wonder. But:
I believe different populations have some inheritable differences. I must admit that I am just relying on my acquiered intuition of ethology and some hypothesis. This is unplowed scientific land so it is impossible to say it is true or not true.>>>
While it is true different populations have inheritable differences, you have not said what those differences are in Native Americans from other populations. When there is no scientific evidence, we do not say: 'impossible to say or not." There is a Ginger Bread Man running around on a distant planet, prove me wrong!!??
All populations started from hunter gatherer. What DNA do you think lost in the transition from that to 'modern' society? You think it just goes away in 100 years of non use? 500?
<<If the gene flow of today between the populations is maintained the future population of Indians will be severly diluted. Imagene a futuristic tribe consisting of for example 3,125% Indian blood only. Can you predict that they will feel it natural to call themselves Indians?>>
They are "diluted" today, Eik. So is the Black American. So am I. There are as many distinct indian peoples as there are models of Khukruri; some widely unlike the other. So when is, "indian status" lost? When a Cherokee marries a Ute? Or just when a Cherokee marries a 'white man'? ( who was an indian 3000 years ago)
Eik, I have a hypothesis of my own. I suspect many familial traits are carried genetically. A sort of short time spiral notebook. When I last read about genes, they'd found some that may or may not do just that. I mean that experiences of an ancestor are not available as film footage, but as a subtle preconscious. But this kind of speculation is gobbledy gook until nailed by repeatable research.
American Indians were the most recent people here who were in touch with the human tools neccesary for survival in the wild. This includes intuition and an understanding of natural events. In some ways, this may, in my opinion, also be an enhanced 'spiritual awareness" to use that ugly phrase. But the average reservation indian is no more in touch with his former way of life than most of us. You need to be taught and to grow under the 'old ways' to activate this awareness. All people have this awareness, all people do not have access to it.
My best friend in Montana is the great (great?) grandson of a famous (among ndn's) medicine man. He does not speak his own language. He has very little left. He asked me when we first became friends
" You mean you've never had a vision?" I was surprised that he expected people to have them. I realized I had and told him so.
munk
It is fine for you to guess and wonder. But:
I believe different populations have some inheritable differences. I must admit that I am just relying on my acquiered intuition of ethology and some hypothesis. This is unplowed scientific land so it is impossible to say it is true or not true.>>>
While it is true different populations have inheritable differences, you have not said what those differences are in Native Americans from other populations. When there is no scientific evidence, we do not say: 'impossible to say or not." There is a Ginger Bread Man running around on a distant planet, prove me wrong!!??
All populations started from hunter gatherer. What DNA do you think lost in the transition from that to 'modern' society? You think it just goes away in 100 years of non use? 500?
<<If the gene flow of today between the populations is maintained the future population of Indians will be severly diluted. Imagene a futuristic tribe consisting of for example 3,125% Indian blood only. Can you predict that they will feel it natural to call themselves Indians?>>
They are "diluted" today, Eik. So is the Black American. So am I. There are as many distinct indian peoples as there are models of Khukruri; some widely unlike the other. So when is, "indian status" lost? When a Cherokee marries a Ute? Or just when a Cherokee marries a 'white man'? ( who was an indian 3000 years ago)
Eik, I have a hypothesis of my own. I suspect many familial traits are carried genetically. A sort of short time spiral notebook. When I last read about genes, they'd found some that may or may not do just that. I mean that experiences of an ancestor are not available as film footage, but as a subtle preconscious. But this kind of speculation is gobbledy gook until nailed by repeatable research.
American Indians were the most recent people here who were in touch with the human tools neccesary for survival in the wild. This includes intuition and an understanding of natural events. In some ways, this may, in my opinion, also be an enhanced 'spiritual awareness" to use that ugly phrase. But the average reservation indian is no more in touch with his former way of life than most of us. You need to be taught and to grow under the 'old ways' to activate this awareness. All people have this awareness, all people do not have access to it.
My best friend in Montana is the great (great?) grandson of a famous (among ndn's) medicine man. He does not speak his own language. He has very little left. He asked me when we first became friends
" You mean you've never had a vision?" I was surprised that he expected people to have them. I realized I had and told him so.
munk