CRK's fixed blade: hard use knives?

[dingy]

If you want an axe go buy an axe, I make knives that cut efficiently and effectively we use high quality materials that will work all over the world 26yrs in business and
10s of thousands of knives in nearly every corner of the globe,deserts to the poles the highest mountains,my knives have been there.Some dufuss beating them with a hammer is no test,
cutting concrete blocks is neither, use a jackhammer.I have spent most of my life working with steels of all different types and know what they can and can not do.I work with and have access to Crucibles metalurgists that chuckle and shake their at these guys antics.My knives used with a little brain power you will be amazed at what my theycan do but sledgehammers and concrete blocks I did not design them for.Chris Reeve.
What is hard use,it is certianly not being stupid.

you are the man, you enlighten me , and i get from you that CRK are really good and can stand the hard use , right ?

how about these ?

please answer me , thanks

dingy.

 

[Thomason]

Probably cheap knock-offs.

 

[giant1]

you are the man, you enlighten me , and i get from you that CRK are really good and can stand the hard use , right ?

how about these ?

please answer me , thanks

dingy.

Dingy

I am afraid that you are an idiot. Are you going to tell us that those knives were broken during normal use???

Stop wasting our time and go away.

 

[DallasSTB]

you are the man, you enlighten me , and i get from you that CRK are really good and can stand the hard use , right ?

how about these ?

please answer me , thanks

dingy.

I'll enlighten you. Those are not Chris Reeve knives. Under review and discussion on another forum. I've been wrong before.

edit to add - regardless of the manufacturer, those knives were not broken by anything other than ridiculously irrelevant abuse.

 

[dingy]

Dingy

I am afraid that you are an idiot. Are you going to tell us that those knives were broken during normal use???

Stop wasting our time and go away.

look at your dirty mouth , i do not ask you , i have right put a pic and ask what happpen to the knives .

fanboy , i can leave , but do not swear any more.

bye!

 

[Madnumforce]

CRK knives aren't made to stand sledge hammer impact. It's abuse to them. But for less than 1/10th the price, other tools, thinner and simpler, do this for centuries. It's the job of the italian manaresso, a type of billhook without hook, to split wood using a hammer. And lot worse than poor soft 2x4. Sure it's a heavier tool, but I wouldn't take a knife as long as a Green Beret to whittle wood neither. A Mora-like knife is enough. Why would one need a sharp edge 7" long? Get a drawknife.

[video=youtube;ZGBX3J_K0rc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGBX3J_K0rc[/video]
(this a 30$ tool, but the guy probably has an agenda)

A "survival knife" is supposed to be one tool meant to do the job of many other specialised tools in a much more compact and lightweight package. It won't split like a splitting maul, won't cut wood like a chain saw, won't chop like an axe, it won't dig like a shovel, it won't drill holes like a drill press, it won't do anything as good as it can be done by another tool. It cumulates fonctions. If it can't stand hammer impact while it's something so simple to achieve by very rustic tools, it can't take the name "survival knife". I'm not even sure it can be called a hard use knife, as even this implies the idea of toughness. Of course, nothing is fragile if you apply only mild force to it. But there's something called safety factor, and the hammer is within the limits of this factor for a survival or even hard use knife.

I found an old billhook on a flee market, paid it 10$. Though I'm sure any CRK knives beats it regarding edge holding and sharpness, I bet my billhook beats it regarding "survival" and hard use toughness and ruggedness. The years inflicted hammer marks on his back are a solid proof of it. And though it's tough, it pops hair when properly sharpened (though that is useless for a survival tool).

 

[Steven65]

look at your dirty mouth , i do not ask you , i have right put a pic and ask what happpen to the knives .
fanboy , i can leave , but do not swear any more.
bye!

You arrive here, post broken fakes and wonder why you are being called an idiot?.........You must be stupid as well!

CRK knives aren't made to stand sledge hammer impact. It's abuse to them.

How do you know this? Have you tested them?
Many CRK owners here have tested them WITHOUT any problems.

 

[Thomason]

I don't know about CRK's fixed blades or Sebenzas but a Mnandi will baton through a concrete block like it is butter. I'll post the video on YouTube this evening.

 

[Allcaps321]

Deluded doesn't begin to describe this thread.

 

[giant1]

I don't know about CRK's fixed blades or Sebenzas but a Mnandi will baton through a concrete block like it is butter. I'll post the video on YouTube this evening.

Nice job, your Mnandi looks fresh as a daisy :thumbup:

Dingbat is obviously doing it wrong........

 

[cricketdave]

As for the 2 knifes shown broken in the pics, the grinds are way off for the green beret. That would lead most to think they are fakes. If not I dont know what was done to break them. I've battoned wood, used it as a pry bar to open ammo crates, used it to start fires with a fire rod, and cut base and blocks for a bowdrill. Oh and chopped wood for a walking stick, opened mre's, stirred food in my mess kit over a fire, trimmed back brush for a shelter, hammered stakes into the ground, and done many just general camp and hunting chores with it. It holds a good edge longer than most, balances well in my hand and performs all the tasks I expect a good knife to do. Its not a crowbar or a concrete chisel and I don't treat it as such, its a knife.

take it easy
cricket

 

[JNewell]

Nice work, dingy. You show up with obviously fake knives that were broken in circumstances that clearly bear no relationship to reasonable use of a knife, and then insult people. What's next? :thumbdn: :barf:

you are the man, you enlighten me , and i get from you that CRK are really good and can stand the hard use , right ?

how about these ?

please answer me , thanks

dingy.

 

[demoteamone]

Nice work, dingy. You show up with obviously fake knives that were broken in circumstances that clearly bear no relationship to reasonable use of a knife, and then insult people. What's next? :thumbdn: :barf:

No, the knives that dingy presented are very real!!! Those knives are the result of a very disappointment test's done by Cliff Stamp.
The most disturbing thing is... the similarity between Cliff test & Noss test!!

 

[Haze]

Dingy's been here long enough and seems to pop up in enough of these types of threads for me to be pretty sure they're just trolling.........Show us knives that were not broken by a side show knife tester and were broken by a CRK customer during normal use and I will be more inclined to discuss things.

 

[Madnumforce]

How do you know this? Have you tested them?
Many CRK owners here have tested them WITHOUT any problems.

If I had money, I would buy usefull stuff for my shop. So no, I can't afford a CR knife, and can't test it myself. By the way, if I want to break steel, I can make it myself and don't need to pay 300$ for this.

What I have is the well documented and filmed review of Noss, where both the Green Beret and the Project I broke while being hammered through 2x4.
Some slander it's faked/staged. There is no direct proof of it. There could be a counter-test, in the same conditions, but I saw no video of it. I don't think there will be any: I don't see anybody here thinking it's an appropriate test. Plus I understand it would be completly stupid wasting over 300$.

This doesn't mean CRK (fixed) aren't up to many other things. It just mean, until someone shows up with opposing evidences, it doesn't stand sledge hammer impacts. The fact they succeed at making featherstick or oppening tin cans makes no difference regarding mallet impact resistance. But my 11$ Opinel makes better feathersticks (a simple question of grind angle and blade thickness), and my 3$ can opener open cans better. You know, picking the right tool for the job...

See what you do? Now I'm being sarcastic.

 

[ishiyumisan]

Dingy's been here long enough and seems to pop up in enough of these types of threads for me to be pretty sure they're just trolling..........

I may agree with that but doesn't mean that he is a lier.

Show us knives that were not broken by a side show knife tester and were broken by a CRK customer during normal use and I will be more inclined to discuss things.

Like what, making sandwiches?

 

[Haze]

I may agree with that but doesn't mean that he is a lier.

I don't see where I called Dingy a liar ? I do see where they pop up to stir the pot in threads like this though.

Like what, making sandwiches?

Grow up, you know just what I mean. I have managed to use CRK fixed blade for years as a forester, chainsaw operator and as a general enjoyer of the out doors. I am yet to see a knife that has been broken when used for normal tasks like those.

 

[Madnumforce]

Sorry, double post.

 

[ishiyumisan]

I don't see where I called Dingy a liar ? I do see where they pop up to stir the pot in threads like this though.



Grow up, you know just what I mean. I have managed to use CRK fixed blade for years as a forester, chainsaw operator and as a general enjoyer of the out doors. I am yet to see a knife that has been broken when used for normal tasks like those.

Right.....................................

 

[Haze]

Right.....................................

Please explain further my good man, or am I left to think you're just trolling now too ?