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Farm Life

Discussion in 'Buck Knives' started by David Martin, Apr 24, 2016.

  1. tiguy7

    tiguy7 Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 25, 2008
    D00F17F2-FC48-47F3-BED2-37075C0F6E12.jpeg You can buy or make owl houses if you like to have them around. Not my photo.
     
  2. David Martin

    David Martin Gold Member Gold Member

    Apr 7, 2008
    It rained during the night and was cool this morning. Plus, our Austerlorps are delivering peewees so, I processed 2 of the old layers using Buck's screwed together frame 110. The handle gives a solid grip no matter what you've been handling. The blade went right on cutting and with these chickens being old I had to actually skin them using the knife. Not merely pull the hide off. So, age matters. After finishing it had about 2" of burr on the edge. I went ahead and stropped this off which took no more than 3-4 minutes. Now, if I was not doing this the steel would process maybe 4-5 old birds and likely 6 young birds. There's your numbers.
    Still, how many people raise and process 6 fed out young birds a year? By the time I have culled out these old layers I will have put 11 in the freezer. If you plan on using a 110 with this steel for a big cutting job (i.e. a buck) it would be a good idea to have on hand a small leather strop w/ slurry applied to strop on or a 4"X 4" stone that you could back hone on to get you through the job. Thanks, DM
     
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  3. Makael

    Makael KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Oct 17, 2015
    what exactly is causing a burr? Bone?
     
  4. David Martin

    David Martin Gold Member Gold Member

    Apr 7, 2008
    A good question. It is when the cutting edge of the knife has been weakened from use and curls. They can be felt by moving your thumb from the spine downward onto the edge with little pressure. It feels like curled metal at the edge. These area have to be
    cleaned up (straightened) or the edge won't cut at that spot. One can see them in bright light, edge up looking down on the edge. They look like shiny areas. Many factors cause them, cutting bone, dragging the blade over the cutting board, torquing the blade during use, ect..DM
     
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  5. jbmonkey

    jbmonkey Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Jun 9, 2011
    cpm154 blade in the screwed together would get ya more hens cut up without stopping to strop I'd think. just need buck to offer us some replacement blades for the screw together.
     
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  6. tiguy7

    tiguy7 Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 25, 2008
    The resistance of an edge to rolling should correlate directly with its Rockwell hardness if other variables like bevel angle were held constant. It would be great if Buck offered loose premium blades for this model. A D-2 blade at 62HRC could improve performance at reasonable cost.
     
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  7. David Martin

    David Martin Gold Member Gold Member

    Apr 7, 2008
    It is common for Professional meat cutters to straighten the burrs on their knife by steeling it. This will do it. Even a brass rod will do it. However, this burr or curling is still weakened metal and will flop back and forth until it falls off. All a normal result of cutting.
    One could remove this by using the slurry on a good muddy stone or with a strop. I would stay away from a hard, smooth stone. DM
     
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  8. tiguy7

    tiguy7 Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 25, 2008
    Most of the butchers I have watched steel the knife with the edge leading. I would think that this method knocks the burrs off rather than raise and straighten them.
     
  9. David Martin

    David Martin Gold Member Gold Member

    Apr 7, 2008
    One would think so but I have done this and it can remain as fatigued metal. Even stropping on leather with slurry applied can
    flop the burr from side to side several times before it is sheered off. I get the best results from stropping it on a rough area of leather with light passes. This seems to grab it and tear it away. Once done the edge cuts crisp and clean for sometime before
    requiring this again. DM
     
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  10. st8yd

    st8yd Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 6, 2009
    I dont even own a strop, i find the steel or a ceramic rod does quite sufficent to bring the rolled edge back. Edge leading
     
  11. David Martin

    David Martin Gold Member Gold Member

    Apr 7, 2008
    You should try a decent strop. DM
     
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  12. Tecate

    Tecate Gold Member Gold Member

    318
    Jul 28, 2017
    Nothing like a good stropping. :D
     
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  13. Makael

    Makael KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Oct 17, 2015
    A good stropping never hurt anyone.:thumbsup: 20190604_182756.jpg
     
  14. cudgee

    cudgee Gold Member Gold Member

    530
    May 13, 2019
    That is what the Nuns and Brothers said!!!
     
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  15. cudgee

    cudgee Gold Member Gold Member

    530
    May 13, 2019
    Do you make and sell these. They look good:thumbsup:
     
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  16. Makael

    Makael KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Oct 17, 2015
    I've made some, pretty easy to do. Haven't really sold them. Lots of sheaths though,
     
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  17. cudgee

    cudgee Gold Member Gold Member

    530
    May 13, 2019
    Just looked at your instagram page. Love your work mate, you are a very skilled craftsman. I have nothing but admiration for bespoke master makers as yourself. Good stuff mate.
     
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  18. st8yd

    st8yd Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 6, 2009
    Enlighten me. The steel will bring it back to shaving with a few strokes, to me if it shaves the hair on my arm thats sufficient, or am i missing something.
     
  19. David Martin

    David Martin Gold Member Gold Member

    Apr 7, 2008
    ^ What I'm saying is a strop works different than a steel. A steel flexes thin metal, straight or off the apex. Whereas a strop grabs
    it and peels it off the apex. Plus, a strop is very portable. DM
     
    Last edited: Jun 30, 2019
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  20. David Martin

    David Martin Gold Member Gold Member

    Apr 7, 2008
    We got a rain last night and this morning being cool, I used Buck's red micarta 110 to process a couple more old hens. I'll give you the pictures then more write up. DM
    cutupChicken.jpg
     
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