It followed me home (Part 2)

P.S. JBLyttle is correctTrentons,Columbians,Hay-Buddens,many American manufacturers used this two-part method.

Here's the important part though:This anvil was never used very much or very hard,Or,else,it belonged to a highly skilled individual.
The reason i think that is that the edges of the face are not dressed,never got done since it left the factory.
That is not good,as of course anywhere near the edge the hardened face is uber fragile...(as evidenced by that damage on one side of counter,and a few other chips visible)).
If you end up using it,DRESS the edges,radius them.One missed blow will make future forging a pain,et c...
It's a sweet old anvil,lovely shape, that,be nice to it...The general rule is that you don't want to exceed 1/10 of the anvil weight,in terms of sledging on it,so i'd keep it not over an 8-lb-er...And radius them edges!:)
(Half-inch at the step down to nothing right at the end of counter seems like a common,useful radius scheme).
 
It's currently my dad's and I don't know how to dress it. It came from my grandpa who got it from an experienced farrier/forger. However it has great rebound or liveliness.
 
Anvil pics. Maybe someone can ID it?
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No faint marks on the feet? Is that the only handling hole(square one)? And can we see the underside of the anvil?
 
Nothing on the bottom till tomorrow maybe but here's the top. There's no feet markings that I see but if I get a cup brush for an angle grinder I'll clean it up. We have 14ish people over for the weekend so no definite plans for pics.
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Wow,Agen_H,some high-grade list....That Breitaxt is particularly rich in ye olde "cool factor"...

They were all procured locally. The larger one, If I were a smith at all, I would straighten it out some... :)

*Oregon Ash blank beneath it.
 
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I would straighten it out some... :)

Straighten it out How,Sir?...
(it's late,maybe my sense of humor is faltering...:)

But any at all other (closer:) views of it would be Greatly appreciated!

(i mean no slight to the other great axes in the photo,that rafting axe is fantastic,and i actually packed a Collins HB just like that for years and years...loved it much...(a net running over the side of my boat pulled it into the water...at a very deep place...:(
 
Straighten it out How,Sir?...
(it's late,maybe my sense of humor is faltering...:)

But any at all other (closer:) views of it would be Greatly appreciated!

(i mean no slight to the other great axes in the photo,that rafting axe is fantastic,and i actually packed a Collins HB just like that for years and years...loved it much...(a net running over the side of my boat pulled it into the water...at a very deep place...:(

I don't have much experience with that pattern other than pawing this one. To me it looks a bit like someone used it to hammer something and it has slightly deformed the eye - not enough to ruin the axe but enough that I will have to pay close attention to the hang to make sure the handle fills the eye. I'll get a photo - that usually explains things more than me trying to describe it in text.
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Like I said, I don't know the pattern but it feels a bit "closed" with the current handle in it - maybe that is how they are inherently or the eye was pushed down towards the blade during whatever abuse it took to push the eye out a little. Seriously though, it may be that I am unfamiliar with what this particular axe's shape.

Oh, and J jake pogg , if you are feeling "Nostalgic" of your long gone Hudson Bay, shoot me an email :)

P. Moulis Have seen that name many times before, but not on such a large axe. Most likely Tsjechian in origin, as most of them are found there. I don't have more then that on the maker though. But if you want I could dig a little deeper?

Gosh Kevin, if you can easily find info that would be terrific - I've kind of exhausted the avenues that have presented themselves in my searching. You came up with some ideas on it previously but you seem to recognize the pattern as Tsjechian which might be easier for you to dig up info as I am at a loss lol.
 
Like I said, I don't know the pattern but it feels a bit "closed" with the current handle in it - maybe that is how they are inherently or the eye was pushed down towards the blade during whatever abuse it took to push the eye out a little. Seriously though, it may be that I am unfamiliar with what this particular axe's shape.

Hmm...Agent_H,as i understand it you're talking of two different oddities here,first,the eye-socket shape.(Thanks for the photos Sir).

It's Possible,maybe,that the very top edge of the Poll-side of the eye was hit and distorted Slightly,but with a 99% probability i'd say that NO.
That eye was forged JUST like that,forged with considerable skill and no doubt in my mind INTENT!:)
It is an ample Volume(for the forces of it's intended use),and has ample Surface-area along which it'll contact the haft.
Wood won't have to fit it ideally to do the job,and will last for a very long time.

This is closer to a type of axe the French call doloir,a wain-,or wheelright's axe,and from what little i know about them the motion when using these is short,close to your body,thus that peculiar very closed hang.(The second "issue").
I think this is what makes you think that the hang was somehow artificially closed...I'd say that it would not be possible to bend it like that even intentionally,cold!:)...(maybe not even hot...i'd bet once it was welded it's configuration was determined forever).

So no,i think the axe was quite intentionally shaped Just like that.And a fine,complex shape that is.The result of centuries of use by all sorts of craftsmen....I'd not swear to a specific name for this tool but i'd bet it's got one...Maybe you could look up a Sabotiere axes in general...
 
Wheels, furniture, bowls. Or my most likely guess: By a Cooper to make barrels.

All these are probably good guesses,but i would imagine that Very shape that Agent_H has is it's own special type,and has a dedicated name and job...
But yeah,interesting ergonomics...Also a beautifully forged tool...i gaze on in wistful envy...(Agent_H,can you see Any indication of where that socket is welded shut At?:)
 
I allready did a search, but that came op empty. I'm at a loss as much as you are I'm afraid. Just spoke to the person in know over there, but he doens't know either. Where is S Steve Tall when you need him ? ;)
FWIW, I came up with this in an earlier thread, which could be related:

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Might be from here:

Forge - Taillanderie
Veuve MOULIS
(at Mondarre, near Negrepelisse)

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"Moulis" doesn't mean windmills (that would be moulins...), here it looks like a surname, and the name of a company now run by the widow (similar to how Veuve Clicquot champagne was named for the widow (Veuve) after her husband François Clicquot died. [Wikipedia]

"Taillanderie" is what this company is called, too, with a catalog full of forged edge tools:
https://archive.org/details/TaillanderieDeToucy

I can understand and read some basic French, but I cant read this. If it is French company: "Moulis" is a a multiple word of "Moulin", which means "Windmill". So "Moulis" is "Windmills". "Veuve" is "Widow". So this is about "Widow Windmills"

Montauban is place in France: https://www.google.nl/maps?q=montauban&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiVoOypjM3eAhXDPOwKHS5OD6wQ_AUIDigB Thats where the local chamber of commerce is situated.
Mondarre is the village: https://www.google.nl/maps/place/Mondarre,+82350+Nègrepelisse,+Frankrijk/@44.0643881,1.4633134,14z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x12ac14e1b8489749:0x1eb6967b59223a91!8m2!3d44.06439!4d1.480823
Negrepelisse is the municipal: https://www.google.nl/maps/place/82800+Nègrepelisse,+Frankrijk/@44.0629263,1.5022981,13z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x12ac3fc13b6b9cc3:0x406f69c2f3bd480!8m2!3d44.0754329!4d1.521964
Forge is Forge
Taillanderie is sharpening place
Coutellerie is Cutlery
Quincallerie is Tools
Marchande Foraine = Merchant Carnaval ????

But thats as far as I can read it. All the handwriten notes look like gibberish to me....
 
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