Miners axe, rafting axe, construction axe

garry3 · Feb 20, 2018

Agent_H said:
“Dock axe, Dayton pattern”?
Circling back a bit.

Hard to say really because they made so many hardened polled including those sold unhafted.

Agent_H · Feb 20, 2018

Good morning, here are some other references to the Miner's Axe Configuration and some other heads offered with hardened polls:
1906 catalag ad with a Miner’s Axe

1910 catalog ad with Miner’s Axe 28” mentioned

1919 ad with Miner’s Axe 26”

1922 Blue Grass Ad – Hardened poll axes in several patterns

1929 Plumb ad Hibbard Miner’s Axe 26”

1935 Diamond Edge Hardened/Tempered? Polls

1959 Mann ad with mention of Miners Axe (letter G) at 19" I think.

garry3 · Feb 20, 2018

JB, I have long associated those Diamond Edges to Plumb. Not sure where I got that so who knows? Hardened polls does seem to be kind of a grey area with some of their axes.

30-2

Square_peg · Feb 20, 2018

Nice that they mention the eye walls. A hardened poll is limited without a sturdy eye.

Steve Tall · Feb 20, 2018

Square_peg said:
Nice that they mention the eye walls. A hardened poll is limited without a sturdy eye.

As another example, Kelly Perfect axes have a "hard poll and extra strength in the eye section" in the 1957 True Temper catalog.

Ernest DuBois · Feb 21, 2018

protourist said:
It has what appears to be some kind of fastener through the head. Could that be? Something someone added when they
couldn't hang it properly?

Recently I learned of an axe head cross pinned like that with some legitimacy, get this, wheellocks! Obscure 17 century weapons misconceived from the beginning. So that makes sense.

Agent_H · Feb 26, 2018

It may have been marked at one time but there are some telltale clues. 3lbs 14oz. It was on a 34” handle. 6-Ridges.

Mystery.Ridges by Agent Hierarchy, on Flickr

Square_peg · Feb 26, 2018

Almost surely a True Temper. But the bevels also looks similar to my Collins rafting axe. While the ridges are much more common on TT axes they are also documented on Collins axes.

But with the very slightly mis-drifted eye I'd bet money it's a Woodslasher rafter. If it came out perfect they would have stamped it True Temper.

Agent_H · Feb 26, 2018

Square_peg said:
Almost surely a True Temper. But the bevels also looks similar to my Collins rafting axe. While the ridges are much more common on TT axes they are also documented on Collins axes.

But with the very slightly mis-drifted eye I'd bet money it's a Woodslasher rafter. If it came out perfect they would have stamped it True Temper.

“If it came out perfect they would have stamped it True Temper.”

I wish True Temper Woodslasher quality upon consumer axes available today.

Sharpened and hung it will eat what you throw at it.

Square_peg · Feb 27, 2018

Agent_H said:
I wish True Temper Woodslasher quality upon consumer axes available today.

Hell, yeah!

junkenstien · Feb 27, 2018

Saw a miners axe at northern tool marked roughneck,sticker said Ames and it had us16 stamped on it 3.5 Dayton on a 20 inch handle.

garry3 · Feb 27, 2018

junkenstien said:
Saw a miners axe at northern tool marked roughneck,sticker said Ames and it had us16 stamped on it 3.5 Dayton on a 20 inch handle.

The last time I looked at a Rough Neck they appeared to be axe shaped objects. Hope they have gotten better.

junkenstien · Feb 27, 2018

Have noticed the US 17 stamped are better looking than others,no casting marks and funky grind marks.Had Michigan's like the Collins, woodings verona style and a double bit with a fiberglass handle that had the thinnest cheeks I have seen on a new one,said made in taiwan.

A17 · Aug 15, 2018

Would these axes count a miners axes? The collins came to me on a 28" handle (not its current one) and the Stanley is a rafting pattern that had no handle. Neither one appears to have a hardened poll, but they aren't soft either. Collins poll.

Stanley poll

Agent_H · Aug 15, 2018

This is one of some threads on Miner’s, rafting, construction axes:

https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/axes-with-hardened-poll.1450405/

Since miner's axes were available with a variety of heads with 20-28" straight handles, I'm not sure being hardened is a requirement. Some Miner's axes came with hardened polls, some did not, some cases you as the customer got to choose.

Java_Dude · Aug 17, 2018

Agent_H said:
It may have been marked at one time but there are some telltale clues. 3lbs 14oz. It was on a 34” handle. 6-Ridges.

Looks like TT woodslasher to me too. Here is a comparison of yours with a TT Kelly Vulcan head.

Agent_H · Aug 17, 2018

Java_Dude said:
Looks like TT woodslasher to me too. Here is a comparison of yours with a TT Kelly Vulcan head.

Nice visual comparison. True Temper and Plumb rafting patterns are the ones I get most excited about when I find them. Although, I do use my "Collins in a box 4" and find it does a great job of splitting - no cheeks maybe offset some by the weight behind it.

Java_Dude · Aug 17, 2018

Agent_H said:
Nice visual comparison. True Temper and Plumb rafting patterns are the ones I get most excited about when I find them. Although, I do use my "Collins in a box 4" and find it does a great job of splitting - no cheeks maybe offset some by the weight behind it.

I picked up a 4# TT woodslasher (looks just like yours) & #5 Plumb head a little while ago. I just need to hang them. I already have a 36" straight handle haft I think I will use for the #5 but I think I will go with a 32" on the #4 . I just need to find the time to get it done.

Agent_H · Aug 18, 2018

Straight handle, grip near the head for poll/hammer use:

Tapping.ends by Agent Hierarchy

The business ends are different.

Square_peg · Jan 3, 2019

5-pound axe that is called a Dayton but has a rafting axe look. Bargain priced. Replace the handle with a 36" and you'd have a heckuva splitter.

https://www.baileysonline.com/woodl...s-with-28-hickory-handle-wp-1028-wp-1028.html

You will notice a strong similarity between this model and a Council axe they also sell.