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"Old Knives"

Discussion in 'Traditional Folders and Fixed Blades' started by VCM3, Jan 21, 2008.

  1. Old Engineer

    Old Engineer Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 30, 2014
    You are welcome Rob and we are very well . We have just had some our families here for the week end . Thank you very much for asking .

    Harry
     
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  2. rockman0

    rockman0 Basic Member Basic Member

    May 5, 2013
    Good to hear it Harry:), we just got in from a weekend at our vacation home, all is well here my friend :thumbsup: thanks
     
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  3. waynorth

    waynorth Dealer / Materials Provider Dealer / Materials Provider

    Nov 19, 2005
    Russell did make some Harness Jacks! (Both found at the Oregon show many years ago! Before I found my yellow background for scanning!!):)

    Russell HJ frt.jpg Russell HJ bck.jpg Russell ebony HJ.jpg
     
  4. Campbellclanman

    Campbellclanman Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Mar 10, 2007
    Charlie - wow!
     
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  5. waynorth

    waynorth Dealer / Materials Provider Dealer / Materials Provider

    Nov 19, 2005
    Thanks Duncan! These Russell HJs are the only two I have ever seen!!
    I have sent queries to Russell collectors in the past. If anyone hears about or sees one, I'd love to , in turn, hear from them!:rolleyes:
     
  6. paulhilborn

    paulhilborn Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 22, 2006
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  7. waynorth

    waynorth Dealer / Materials Provider Dealer / Materials Provider

    Nov 19, 2005
    Thanks Paul!!
     
  8. Campbellclanman

    Campbellclanman Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Mar 10, 2007
    Hey Charlie I was just looking at those gorgeous HJ's - are they Empire Built? ? the bottom Ebony Russell HJ is a dead ringer for my Townsley ( Empire Built ) HJ.
     
  9. waynorth

    waynorth Dealer / Materials Provider Dealer / Materials Provider

    Nov 19, 2005
    Duncan, the Russell could be, but the nail nick looks different. I'll find it and take another look!!
     
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  10. Campbellclanman

    Campbellclanman Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Mar 10, 2007
    Charlie - here are the Challenge HJ's and in the top photos ( middle Ebony HJ is the Townley )
     
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  11. waynorth

    waynorth Dealer / Materials Provider Dealer / Materials Provider

    Nov 19, 2005
    Great comparison photos, Duncan!! They sure look like they all , yours and mine, came from the same work benches!!
     
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  12. Campbellclanman

    Campbellclanman Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Mar 10, 2007
    Interesting Charlie! I don't know if I would be able to keep my cool if I saw a Russell HJ :eek: :D, as Paul and I were talking the other day- if you have only come across these two in your Harness Jack collecting / Hunting time- then they would most likely be near the only two around - that we know of.
     
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  13. Campbellclanman

    Campbellclanman Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Mar 10, 2007
    Speaking of not often see....

    I would love to hear from anyone who has seen or own anything like this lovely wee thing.
    At just over 2 & 3/4 inches long closed - this delicate Ebony Handled four Line stamped HJ is so so well made- it honestly makes you appreciate these great Cutler Firms.

    PLEASE - forgive me for the painfully terrible at night indoor shots of this knife- Just yuk :oops:

    This is not the first Camillus I have seen using the Robeson Punch- or to be safe a Robeson styled punch- I cannot see any difference at all in the Punch to be anything different than the Robeson's Punch- of course slimmer to fit the very delicate small frame of this knife.

    Nice Walk and Talk- Silver Nickel Bolsters and Silver Nickel Liners and Pins - This Knife has had very little use, just a great little and interesting HJ made by an amazing U.S Cutler firm - a welcome addition to my HJ Family!:)
    It came in a wee Pouch that itself is Tapered to fit the Small and interesting Bolster - original? no markings on the Clip fastners to indicate Camillus.

    Why this Shape? To represent a Bottle - Bolster upwards? Has Gold Lettering of the name A.ECKELS on the Pile Ebony handle.

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  14. knowtracks

    knowtracks Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 16, 2006
    Very interesting Duncan! :thumbsup::cool:
    I have never seen anything like it before.

    Dave
     
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  15. black mamba

    black mamba Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 21, 2009
    Duncan, that is a pipe tamper . . . you use the small flat end to press your tobacco down into your pipe.
     
  16. Campbellclanman

    Campbellclanman Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Mar 10, 2007
    Thanks Dave!

    Jeff - those were my initial thoughts - but the pipe Tamper Knife usually has a long narrow round Spike - for the use of cleaning etc where as this is an actual Harness Jack- as in a proper Punch- perhaps an HJ with a Pipe Tamper Bolstered end Jeff?

    Edited for weird predictive txt spelling :oops:
     
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  17. black mamba

    black mamba Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 21, 2009
    That's my thought, of course I've been wrong before. I just can't think of any other use for the bolstered end.
     
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  18. Campbellclanman

    Campbellclanman Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Mar 10, 2007
    I think you are right Jeff - I dont see any other reason- perhaps this is just a darned wee handy tool - HJ, and a Pipe Smokers friend?
     
  19. herder

    herder Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 24, 2007
    Thanks North Shore, for the nice comments.

    waynorth, those Russell harness jacks are certainly rare in my book and are very neat!!! Russell Barlow models were offered in nearly every hardware and sporting goods catalog from the late 1800s through WW II, but it's darn hard to find any ads or paperworks for non-Barlow Russell folders from the early 1900s onward. I believe that Russell stopped making all folders aside from Barlow models much past the late 1920s, and I also think that the blade stamps on your models date to the 1920s. Did Russell actually make those models or contract out for them, who knows??? But they certainly are uncommon as you suggested.
    The shield on the bone handled model was used on other Russell folders, but I have never seen the shield on the ebony model used before on a Russell.

    Campbellclanman, Very cool Camillus model which looks like a "Pipe Tamper" as black mamba suggested. It seems like I've seen paperwork for that knife but can't find it at the moment. I'll keep searching...
     
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  20. Campbellclanman

    Campbellclanman Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Mar 10, 2007
    Dave Jeff and Herder - Thank you for the comments.
    Thank you also Herder for having a look for those papers my friend.
     

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