"Old Knives"

Discussion in 'Traditional Folders and Fixed Blades' started by VCM3, Jan 21, 2008.

  1. CNoyes

    CNoyes Gold Member Gold Member

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    May 30, 2009
    Just acquired this Terrier EO Jack that is circa 1910 - 1916.

    3 11/16" long. This is a sixteenth larger than their catalog stated. Should be 3 5/8. Guess the finisher went a little light on the wheel.

    Beautiful brown bone. Jigged and grooved. No chips or cracks. Nickel-silver escutcheon shield.

    Both blades marked, TERRIER / CUTLERY / ROCHESTER, N.Y. in three lines.

    Nice Terrier dog's head logo on the back of the master and 27 / 626 on back of the pen. A Robeson of this pattern would be marked 626027 or 62627.

    Both blades have half-stops and audible snaps opening, closing and at the half-stops. Actually, the blades snap more loudly at half-stop than most knives do on opening and closing.

    This knife has got some springs.

    Blades have seen virtually no use, but are patinated.

    There are remnants of an etch on the master spear that appears to have been, "SHEFFIELD SILVER STEEL" in Gothic style letters inside a fancy etched cartouche with scrolls.

    Jury is still out on what the etch actually says, but "...SILVER STEEL" is pretty obvious in the correct light.

    I have never seen this etch on a Robeson or Terrier knife. I have seen "FIRTH'S STERLING STAINLESS STEEL" on a Robeson metal handled knife. That was probably a Robeson self-advertiser.

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  2. CNoyes

    CNoyes Gold Member Gold Member

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    May 30, 2009
    Duncan, your little coke bottle is a pipe smoker's knife.

    I had one way back, circa 1988. I sold it and Sarah fussed because she had it displayed on the antique secretary with her grandfather's pipes. I have tried to find her another and have seen a couple on Ebay, but they were later and had a pipe stamped or burned into one handle.

    The punch or awl was used to scrape the inside of the bowl. The top of the bottle was the tamper.

    Every one I've seen was by Camillus.
     
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  3. herder

    herder Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 24, 2007
    With a dedicated Case thread we don't see many old Case knives here in the "Old Knives" thread, but this one deserves to be here.
    Case Tested XX knives existed roughly from 1920 to 1940 and are considered by many to be the best ever produced by the company.
    Enclosed is a lovely old 3-3/4 inch two blade jack with classic Case jigged bone handles.

    BF Case Tested on Wrench .jpg
     
  4. black mamba

    black mamba Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 21, 2009
    Gorgeous Case, Neal, lovin' the green bone!
     
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  5. Ishrub

    Ishrub

    Apr 30, 2011
    I wonder if this 'Sheffield Silver Steel' was the actual steel type at the time:

    Silver steel
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Silver steel is common tool steel that is supplied as a centerless ground round bar (with tolerances similar to that of drill bit). The name comes from the highly polished appearance of the rods; there is no silver in the alloy.

    Amongst other applications, it has been widely used to make such things as punches, engravers, screwdrivers. Sheffield silver steel is used in France as a blade steel for straight razors. In Finland, German silver steel was and still is widely used for Puukko knives.

    The composition is defined by UK specification BS-1407, and is given below.

    In the annealed state it has a hardness of 27 HRC. It can be hardened to 64 HRC.[1]

    The European/Werkstoff equivalent is 1.2210 / 115CrV3, which also includes some vanadium.

    Composition of Silver Steel
    Element BS-1407 Silver Steel[2] DIN 1.2210 / 115CrV3[3]
    Min
    Typ Max Min Max
    Carbon 0.95% 1.13% 1.25% 1.10% 1.25%
    Chromium 0.35% 0.43% 0.45% 0.50% 0.80%
    Manganese 0.25% 0.37% 0.45% 0.20% 0.40%
    Silicon 0 0.22% 0.40% 0.15% 0.30%
    Vanadium 0.07% 0.12%
    Phosphorus 0 0.014% 0.045% 0 0.03%
    Sulphur 0 0.018% 0.045% 0 0.03%
    Iron Balance Balance
     
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  6. waynorth

    waynorth Dealer / Materials Provider Dealer / Materials Provider

    Nov 19, 2005
    I, too, love that Era of Case knives. That's a beauty, herder!! :thumbsup:
     
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  7. herder

    herder Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 24, 2007
    Thanks, black mamba and waynorth. Interesting how you can name some companies by just their handle jigging.
    And thanks also Charlie for the information regarding the Schrade Cut. automobile knife. :thumbsup:
     
  8. waynorth

    waynorth Dealer / Materials Provider Dealer / Materials Provider

    Nov 19, 2005
    Yes, most of us don't have to read the tang or shield to know these are Case Jacks; identifiable just by looking at the bone handles!!!
    Jacks 1.jpg Jacks 2.jpg
     
  9. waynorth

    waynorth Dealer / Materials Provider Dealer / Materials Provider

    Nov 19, 2005
    Charlie Noyes, that's a nice Terrier EO!!
     
  10. Mike Robuck

    Mike Robuck Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 11, 2001
    Nice lineup there Charlie. Great to see the early Case bone.
     
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  11. blademan 13

    blademan 13 Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 25, 2000
    Been away from this thread for a bit and getting caught up on some absolutely first rate knives over the last 20 pages! Here are a few of my recent acquisitions. 794FE2E7-A899-43B5-97A9-24981A3A5D1C.jpeg 54C504EC-4CE1-487A-8C0D-6B324BB59DC6.jpeg D0A8A13A-86C2-477D-AB8E-EE3FAA3ABCBC.jpeg
     
  12. Vegera

    Vegera

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    Sep 6, 2007
    Hey.
    The shape of the bottom knife blade is my favorite.

    Reminds the mouth of an alligator, as I see it.

    I repaired the old Ka-Bar, which I bought at auction.

    I think he is still ready to serve for a long time.
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  13. herder

    herder Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 24, 2007
    Good idea Will, it would be neat to see a modern version of the Thistle handled knife.
     
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  14. herder

    herder Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 24, 2007
    waynorth, outstanding selection of Case Tested XX models, wow!!!

    blademan 13, great trifecta of some classic models from three big names.
     
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  15. kai76

    kai76

    Jun 5, 2009
    @blademan 13 Love that Case slim line. What a beautiful knife! It’s one of the first patterns/knives that got me into slipjoints.
     
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  16. Mike Robuck

    Mike Robuck Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 11, 2001
    Don Hanson makes a nice custom version of that Case slimline trapper. Those other two ain't too shabby either!
     
  17. TheChunk91

    TheChunk91 Gold Member Gold Member

    Aug 15, 2013
    Beautiful old case, and neat old alligator wrench. I'm not so sure that pocket knives have improved over that period, but pipe wrenches sure did. :)
     
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  18. Gevonovich

    Gevonovich Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 17, 2011
    Me too :)

    Case and Sons

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    This page is such a treat !! Waynorth, Jamie, and Herder :eek:
     
  19. waynorth

    waynorth Dealer / Materials Provider Dealer / Materials Provider

    Nov 19, 2005
    What a treat, Gev!!!
     
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  20. Gevonovich

    Gevonovich Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 17, 2011
    Thank you good Sir ! Don't think I have not been lusting after all the beautiful-ness you have been posting on a daily basis...you're getting stronger every day...oh oh yeah
     
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