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"Old Knives"

Discussion in 'Traditional Folders and Fixed Blades' started by VCM3, Jan 21, 2008.

  1. Augie

    Augie Gold Member Gold Member

    Aug 23, 2014
    Rob, North Shore, some very fine knives, beauties to look at.

    Found a nice very little use 3" Challenge half Congress. Challenge had some very nice bone.


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  2. waynorth

    waynorth Dealer / Materials Provider Dealer / Materials Provider

    Nov 19, 2005
    Nicely-applied, and beautiful Bone handles, John! Great Congress!!
     
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  3. Augie

    Augie Gold Member Gold Member

    Aug 23, 2014

    Thank you Charlie, definitely my new Sunday knife.
     
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  4. tongueriver

    tongueriver Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 28, 2007
    If one can only have two blades in a Congress, or any other little folder, those would be the ones that I would pick. Great half congress (there is such a thing, not to be confused with a half whittler, which is physically impossible except as a CASE marketing name).
     
  5. waynorth

    waynorth Dealer / Materials Provider Dealer / Materials Provider

    Nov 19, 2005
    Half-Whittler (i.e, half-wit!:D)always reminds me of a half-HJ!!
    La-la land, too!!:rolleyes: Halfwit 1.jpg
    Is this a half-congress??^;) Halfwit 2.jpg
     
  6. tongueriver

    tongueriver Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 28, 2007
    I would call it a congress jack, but that might not be correct, either? Two of the pics you just posted don't look pocket-friendly to me! Well, that jack is certainly very knice! And the dandy selection of blades, as well!
     
  7. waynorth

    waynorth Dealer / Materials Provider Dealer / Materials Provider

    Nov 19, 2005
    Thanks for humoring me, Cal!!:D
     
  8. Campbellclanman

    Campbellclanman Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Mar 10, 2007
    Wow- Augie - the Bone in that HC is amazing!

    Charlie - nice Knife - Frankfurt’s Hardware Co - not a stamp you see often, do you know who made that one?
     
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  9. waynorth

    waynorth Dealer / Materials Provider Dealer / Materials Provider

    Nov 19, 2005
    The history is murky on that one (Frankfurth's), Duncan! Might have been made by Schatt&Morgan, or Camillus! Any help is appreciated - it's a cool pattern, IMO!
     
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  10. tongueriver

    tongueriver Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 28, 2007
    This little (2 1/16") rascal is reputed to be a Robeson. Milled liners and very snappy. Appears to be un-used with light grey patina. mop3.jpg mop6.jpg mop7.jpg mop9.jpg
     
  11. tongueriver

    tongueriver Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 28, 2007
    Hibbard Spencer and Bartlett pen @ 3.25 inches. Who made it? By the bone I would say pre-1930. Another question: Does anyone know what kind of lovely little hand machine was used to mill liners back in the day? I have heard that a lady did it in her home for Schrade in the 1950s. R1.jpg R3.jpg R4.jpg R10.jpg
     
  12. r8shell

    r8shell Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Jan 16, 2010
    If you Google "milgrain tool" you'll see pictures of an engraving tool with a tiny indented wheel.
    I don’t know if that's what was used on knives, but it's used by jewelers to make that kind of texture.
     
  13. Augie

    Augie Gold Member Gold Member

    Aug 23, 2014

    Cal, nice HSB, if I had to guess I would say Camillus made by the bone and the style of jimping, I've seen that skip pattern on other Camillus made knives.

    This later Camillus Deluxe Stockman shows the skip pattern on the backspring but shows a different pattern on the well, interestingly the well side jimping looks to have been done after the knife was assembled or after bolsters attached to liners as the patter is in the bolster.


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    The jimping on the Schrade Waldens was done after the knife was assembled and can extend into the bolsters and handle material, Eric did state that it was done with some type of roller machine by a retired Schrade employee on her kitchen table.


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  14. danno50

    danno50 Gold Member Gold Member

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    Apr 15, 2008
    Beautiful knives posted in the last couple of weeks by Duncan, Augie, NorthShore, Rob, GasMan1, and Charlie!:thumbsup:
    I got a chuckle out of Charlie's "half-wit" comment.:thumbsup: I agree completely with Charlie and Cal, no such thing as a half whittler!
    Somewhere I have seen a video of Stan Shaw jimping (coining) liners. He was using an indented wheel (as described by r8shell in post #19469 above).

    edited to add: I just searched "milgrain tool". From my recollection the tool Stan Shaw used had a considerably larger diameter wheel than the ones that show up on the internet and looked as if it was possibly made by Stan.
     
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  15. Pt-Luso

    Pt-Luso Basic Member Basic Member

    Nov 8, 2014
  16. Campbellclanman

    Campbellclanman Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Mar 10, 2007
    Hey Cal- Thats a very interesting wee Knife- reminds me of my Henckels in shape- but your "Blade" with the serrations on top and bottom- looks as though its used for Shucking into something of sorts- very specific! Do you know what that Blade was made to do my friend?

    Following up on that gorgeous HSB, Whew.. That Bone! our matey Augie is ( imo ) is bang on - Camillus created some absolute outstanding knives and I really regret not focusing on them at an earlier Stage - but hey, if the Big Guy upstairs lets me hang around for some time yet- maybe I can do something about that lol! I love the wee Bar Shield Slinking up with the frame ! I think what is so attractive is that the wee Cap Bolsters let the Bone be displayed a little more ( of course ) but they ( Cap Bolsters ) seem to perfectly finish off a beautiful Bone such as that Knife - lovely !

    Oh man...Augie- that Premium Stockman is the Knife isnt it! What an absolute beauty, I just love that Pattern from Camillus - they nailed it beautifully in every way, Sears had some very nice ones contracted out to them as well! Wonderful Knife My friend- I am so jealous this morning - as I always am reading "Old Knives" :D :thumbsup:

    Here is another version of Camillus's Coining on the same Knife Augie /Cal, different quite possibly as per request from SFO Order from Sears?..

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    and on top, the same.....
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  17. lambertiana

    lambertiana Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 7, 2000
    Duncan - Are my eyes deceiving me or are there two liners visible on one side when looked at from the backspring side? I can see the milled liner and another non-milled liner. On the blade side only one liner is visible. If there are actually two liners on the backspring side, I'd like to see a close up end shot to see how the second liner is fit into only one side of the knife.
     
  18. Campbellclanman

    Campbellclanman Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Mar 10, 2007
    Lambertiana, your eyes are good and they do not deceive you my friend, I will make a note of that and come back to you, as I will have to get my knife to take some more Photo's for you kind Sir! If you look at Augie's beautiful example it is the same- it's just that I took the photo of my knife upside down compared to Augie's.
    If you look at Augies 3rd Photo down of his example, this should show you a great deal of what you are wanting to see kind Sir!
     
  19. waynorth

    waynorth Dealer / Materials Provider Dealer / Materials Provider

    Nov 19, 2005
    Indeed the "second" liner on one side of these knives is a "cut out" to make room for the bypassing blades!
    @lambertiana
     
  20. lambertiana

    lambertiana Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 7, 2000
    Ahhhh, now I see it. Thanks!
     

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