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Bad Patriot Leather

Discussion in 'FEEDBACK: The Good, The Bad, The Ugly!' started by Deschain, Jun 1, 2020.


    KELAMA Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 28, 2013
    Skyler: For the sake of your business, & more importantly, your fellow employee's, I feel it would be in your company's best interest, to simply apologize to the OP, put this incident behind you, & move forward from here.

    Good luck. :thumbsup:
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  2. Boxer .45

    Boxer .45

    Jan 11, 2015
    All the OP did was ask advice or if anyone had had a similar experience. He only wanted what he already paid for.....5+ months before, or a response, or a refund. All you had to do was communicate with him. Any person in business knows you have to communicate if you can't meet your end. It blows my mind you come in with arrogance when all he was doing was asking advice.
    You said, "its not anybody's business", but the OP made it everyones business, only because YOU didn't communicate, its your own fault you got undesirable attention, and you know it.

    I don't anyone that would wait anywhere near that long for most service/product fulfillment.

    If you think exposure like this, and you acting like you arent responsible, and having an "I'm a TOOL" attitude won't affect your business, you're wrong. It has nothing to do with this forum, or any forum specifically. It has to do with people researching what they're buying and from whom. Ripples in the "knife community" as a whole can and does cause waves.

    Lots of other REALLY GOOD leather benders out there.
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  3. Nautique


    May 15, 2016
    Note to self.
  4. shinyedges

    shinyedges Unfaltering Love & Undeviating Will Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Jun 5, 2012
    Been awhile since I seen someone light their own dumpster fire and hop in it. Good grief man, admit you acted like a dick and apologize. This behavior won't benefit you. We all act a fool occasionally, owning it and making amends is the right thing to do.
  5. 91bravo

    91bravo Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 29, 2008
    Amen! Bladeforums, if you want a nice custom leather sheath made, contact @Makael, he is a member here, nice guy, answers PMs in a timely manner and makes an incredible leather sheath with a short turn around time. What's to lose?

  6. Hale Storm

    Hale Storm Kydex Whisperer Gold Member

    Sep 18, 2013
    Another keyboard warrior. I remember
    It's unfortunate that the OP was cheated by this douchebag and had to go through all of this trouble. Keep in mind that not everyone just files a claim and makes a post on a forum when they are cheated out of hard earned money and treated like crap by arrogant assholes. Sometimes karma has a way of bringing the problem right in front of you. Skyler wouldn't be the first to have his keyboard warrior mentality knocked out of him. Sooner or later he'll cheat, or mouth off to the wrong person that isn't as nice as most of us here at BF.
  7. Hale Storm

    Hale Storm Kydex Whisperer Gold Member

    Sep 18, 2013
    Patriot Leather and Survive!Knives. You know what they say about birds of a feather............
    Two really shitty companies run by really terrible, rude, possibly criminal people that have zero issues in lying to their customers.
  8. Hale Storm

    Hale Storm Kydex Whisperer Gold Member

    Sep 18, 2013
    You really are just a total dick aren't you?
  9. Hale Storm

    Hale Storm Kydex Whisperer Gold Member

    Sep 18, 2013
    I wouldn't give Patriot Leather a nickel either.
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  10. tueller

    tueller Basic Member Basic Member

    Mar 16, 2012
    A lot of smoke and mirrors covering up the main question...

    Why was the Op forced to go through the PayPal refund process? Why wouldn’t Patriot Leather just refund him or send him the correct sheath? A PayPal refund is a back up to poor customer service; not the desired solution for a customer.

    Forced to guess due to zero explanation.. another example of... let’s ignore the problem and hope the customer gives up. No bueno.
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    Oct 31, 1998
    I purchased two scout style sheaths with a neat spring loaded type quick release thumb strap 8-9 years ago. Beautiful, awesome sheaths at that time. It's a shame over the years to see the customer service evolve to this type of behavior. I've been on the forums since the beginning and the beginning of other forums that are no longer around. It was always sad to see many talents self-destruct online.
    It's anybody's guess why PayPal had to get involved for something that should have been resolved by Patriot leather
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  12. KELAMA

    KELAMA Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 28, 2013
    There is NO excuse for this type of horrible customer service. :thumbsdown: Regardless- what find absolutely mind boggling, is this all could've been simply avoided, had PL communicated better, & issued a $79 refund.
    All of this, over $79 freaking dollars?!?!?! :confused: o_O :rolleyes:

    We've completed our review of this case and decided in favor of your buyer. Per your authorization, we deducted the full transaction amount from your PayPal account. This case is now closed and no further action is required on your part.
    We refunded $79.90 USD to them.
    Transaction Details
    Case number: PP-D-70159705
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  13. Kenneth F Huls

    Kenneth F Huls Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 11, 2012
    Dear Sir,
    Are you addressing me above wherein you quote my post and use a slur in so doing? I attempted to send you a PM in order to ask for clarification, and if that was the case, address this.
    Please PM me.
    Kind rgds,


    Oct 31, 1998
    Agreed, would have been simpler to ship replacement or refund such an insignificant amount to avoid the drama
  15. Hale Storm

    Hale Storm Kydex Whisperer Gold Member

    Sep 18, 2013
    Ken, my apologies for the confusion. That was directed at Patriot Leather. I'd had a similar conversation with him in the past. I don't even remember why now since he's not important enough to remember but I do remember he was a dbag in the comms and is the typical tough talker online. A keyboard warrior, if you will. :D
  16. Hale Storm

    Hale Storm Kydex Whisperer Gold Member

    Sep 18, 2013
    Your inbox is full.
  17. Kenneth F Huls

    Kenneth F Huls Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 11, 2012
    Thank you, Hale Storm. I think yours was, too; hence my message here.
    I really appreciate that clarification. I have a hard time fully grasping intent/message without in-person cues. A failing on my part.
    I, too, along with all of you, am very bothered by Skyler’s unprofessional communications here.
  18. Skystorm


    Oct 17, 2011
    Sorry if you feel my responses to a known Survive! shill are dbaggy.

    FYI, Don't confuse a keyboard warrior with someone who simply won't take your shit. Keyboard warriors, Like Quiet, are the ones always running their mouth about what they will supposedly do or say in person. Of course getting them to show up and actually do just that seems to prove rather difficult for some reason, but they will go on long and loudly about it.
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  19. 91bravo

    91bravo Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 29, 2008
    I don’t think that is the point of this thread. The OP started the thread due to the customer service, or lack thereof for his sheath purchased through Skystorm.

    Hey we all make mistakes. Fix em and move on. It’s what you do after those mistakes that counts.
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  20. mattmanyam


    Apr 28, 2010
    Ironic then, that the "keyboard warriors" around here is what actually helped get your ex-customer their proper dues...

    "I woulda got away with it, too, if it wasn't for you meddling kids!!"
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