Single features that kill a design for you?

Discussion in 'General Knife Discussion' started by bpeezer, Apr 28, 2013.

  1. orixa

    orixa

    197
    Dec 22, 2012
    A 4" blade that features two different grinds, 1/2" choil and tiger stripes all at the same time!
     
  2. tennessee226

    tennessee226

    27
    Sep 16, 2012
    I dont like:

    Tac folders:
    aus 8 steel
    part serrated
    made in China
    tip down only or funky clip
    recurves
    the knives that are better at prying than cutting
    mall ninja lookin"

    Fixed blades:
    stainless steel
    recurves
    bad sheath
    made in china
    double edge
    funky design (TOPS comes to mind)
    mall ninja lookin'

    Slipjoints:
    Made in china
    too fragile to use
    most stainless steels
    i usually try to get pinned shields
     
  3. gwebb

    gwebb Banned BANNED

    254
    Jan 5, 2011
    Chisel grinds, shotty G10 work, overly thick blades (a knife is meant to cut and slice, if you need to hack get a dang hatchet), and tanto blades.
     
  4. parbajtor

    parbajtor

    Nov 24, 2010
    Pocket clips, coated blades and tacticool embellishments
     
  5. 42Jackbauer23

    42Jackbauer23

    270
    Dec 3, 2007
    Recurve blades and pocket clips that let the knife stick out far. I like deep carry.
     
  6. bpeezer

    bpeezer

    Jan 27, 2013
    I should have called this thread "list of features my roommate looks for in knives" :D I'm surprised with all the consistency here, but I guess great minds think alike ;)
     
  7. dragonsprayer

    dragonsprayer

    366
    Apr 24, 2013
    this is going to piss off a lot people

    but the spiderco deployment - i hate it. makes the knife fat and it is hard to get smaller ones out.

    too big of a knife or too hard too open. but the again, i should bought a bigger one, not the small cheap kersaw ones.

    so i decided too try another one.


    well thought out

     
  8. symphonyincminor

    symphonyincminor

    Oct 5, 2005
    ~ Badly over-engineered knives - see the latest crop of folders coming out from new makers. The trend tends to be to add as much material to the knife (overly thick blade stock, thick grinds and edge geometry, thick Ti or laminate handle scales, etc) without actually thinking of smarter, cleverer ways to engineer the knife to be bombproof rather than just add material all over the place. I could get way more in depth but you get the trajectory of where I'm going with this....
    ~ Thumbstuds
    ~ Full metal handles (half Ti and half laminate is the best of both worlds)
    ~ Assisted opening
    ~ Loooooooooooooooow rider pocket clips. Hey - you can't see the knife in the pocket - and it's equally hard to get it out!
    ~ S30V :barf:
     
  9. blame it on god

    blame it on god

    Feb 21, 2013
    Serrations, and knives that are set up for right hand carry only or tip down only.
     
  10. Kazeryu

    Kazeryu

    960
    Nov 7, 2005
    Combo Edge (Full serrations have their place, although I don't buy them)
    Obnoxiously Thick Blades (I want to cut things with my knife, not split them with my wedge)
    Anything that smacks of tacti-koolaid. (Black coatings, glass breakers, wire cutters, outsized handles, etc.)
    Pocket clips which aren't deep-riding. (I wear IWB and don't want something stabbing me in the stomach and announcing itself to everyone I meet)
    Mother of Pearl (I am not a geriatric spinster)
    Palpable flex in handle scales (This is one of the main reasons I won't ever own an FRN Delica or Endura)
    Dual Locks (Your locking system is so unreliable that you need a second one just to keep it closed?)

    and I guess "Mystery Metal" although I've never seen a MM knife whose looks interested me, so this is sort of a non-issue. Exception - "Carbon Steel" in historic brands like Opinel and Douk-Douk is fine with me.
     
  11. Kazeryu

    Kazeryu

    960
    Nov 7, 2005
    But that's the whole point. :confused:

    :rolleyes: I think your pants are too tight!

    ;) YMMV
     
  12. herisson

    herisson Apple slicing rocking chair dweller Platinum Member

    Mar 11, 2013
    The blade written all over... Case , I call you out on this one. I love you, but there is just no way I buy a knife with a blade clusterfucked by text. No. Love your knives, all the same. But, well...
     
  13. Nic S.

    Nic S.

    408
    Mar 4, 2012
    I don't like blade lengths that are over 3.5 inches. I personally don't see the advantage of EDCing some thing that big IMO.
     
  14. Johndies

    Johndies

    38
    Mar 13, 2013
  15. Toxie

    Toxie

    197
    Nov 5, 2007
    Serrations and liner locks.
     
  16. recon1s14

    recon1s14

    720
    Nov 15, 2010
    1. Seatbelt Cutters! :D Why have a blade just to have a razor pinned into the butt? :rolleyes: ew...

    2. Weight, bigger does not have to mean heavier...Manix LW anyone?

    3. Weird pocket clips, maybe I'm just spoiled by Spyderco's wire clip but big obtrusive pocket clips annoy me.

    4. No pointy tips, if I needed a butter knife I'd use one, I like pointy as well as sharp :D

    5. Unnecessary holes in the blade, besides a thumb hole which I love, it just means more places for stuff to get stuck in, and to clean out.
     
    Last edited: May 4, 2013
  17. nyefmaker

    nyefmaker Gold Member Gold Member

    Sep 29, 2008
    As far as the knives themselves go, I would have to say serrations and recurves. I have had knives with them and they are just not for me honestly.

    As for country of mfg, I am pretty much USA ONLY. I love the look of some of the spyderco's, but when I see Taiwan on it, its a deal killer no matter how cool it is. Puma makes great knives and Victorinox/Wenger are the only TRUE SAK, so gotta go with them.

    But probably the biggest is Customer Service from the company. I have dealt with companies that have the best in any business, while others have the worst I have ever experienced.
     
  18. CBennett

    CBennett

    86
    Oct 14, 2008
    1.Serations

    2.Short stubby thick blades

    3.the curved(i call it cats claw) design on some blades,

    4.and this will get me in trouble with MANY as MANY dont mind or like this but blades with holes or slots of any kind in and or along the blade(Spyderco,Ontario XM folding series) im sure this is just MY opinion and im sure its a proven design and im probably wrong I just feel holes and slots just weaken the blade at that point ...Id rather have a FULL steel blade no holes or slots to weaken it.

    5. Oh and a minor hang up on assisted opening....I only own ONE and thats probably all I will ever own...too hard for me to keep track of all the knife laws in all the places I travel..but in the places that I go the one frequent No-NO is assisted opening blades...Personally I love them I wish they were legal everywhere..but since I HATE keeping track of them I try to normally get only the "regular" type. Like I said id wish they were all assisted and legal everywhere but they aren't and im sick of keeping track.
     
  19. bld522

    bld522

    Feb 3, 2004
    Great thread, guys. The interesting thing in reading through it is how many features I DON'T like that I wasn't consciously aware of before I read it. I also realized that I'll accept certain features in one style of knife that I won't in another. So, for example, my acceptable feature list changes if I'm considering a fixed-blade knife or a folder. And it changes again if I'm considering a "tactical" folder or a traditional folder. And it changes yet again if I'm planning to use the knife or only collect it. But regardless of the category I put it in, any knife I buy has to be visually appealing or it's a no-go right out of the gate. After that, just about anything is acceptable for knives I purchase primarily to collect. But if I'm going to use the knife, then proper ergos is a must no matter what category the knife fits in. Nothing else matters if it isn't comfortable to use. Last but not least, a knife has to be priced fairly in my estimation or I won't consider purchasing it regardless of how popular it is or how much I might like it. Value, not price, is the key determiner for me.
     
    Last edited: May 4, 2013
  20. James Y

    James Y

    Feb 18, 1999
    Flippers that stick out way too prominently when the knife is closed.

    Bead-blasted blades.

    Overly thick/obtuse blade grinds.

    Overly thick handles.

    Overly heavy (folders).

    Skateboard tape (or whatever it is) inserts.

    Made in China. On this point, I will say that I own a few Chinese knives (a Henckels Santoku kitchen knife; a Byrd hawkbill design, and a Messermeister picnic knife) that work very well. In fact, I use the Henckels as my main cooking knife. But for the most part, I do not like "China" on my knives. And I proudly own many knives from Switzerland, Japan, USA, Taiwan, etc. It's probably illogical on my part, but it is what it is.

    Serrations that are overly long/pointy/deep, or too fine. I like most Spyderco serrations, but not the ones by Cold Steel or Emerson. And I have one old combo-edge Kershaw with serrations that are so long, narrow and pointy as to be unusable.

    Jim
     

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