just got a set of wheeks from woodcraft,,far as I know they are the same ones you recommend, made in Ca,,called the razor sharp edgemaking system, I am going to set them up tomorrow on my grinder,,I am looking forward to trying them out , I have a 1/30 belt system now and it works great,,I am planning on trying to start a part time business in the future, I will be retiring in a few yrs and want a lil something I can do to make a lil extra money,,and as I enjoy sharpening anyway I am going to give it a shot,,am already doing all my friends and families knives now,,I want to thank you for all the info I have gotten from reading your posts,,I feel I will have no trouble getting the wheels to do what I need, I will update you tomorrow after I use the wheels for a bit,,