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From what I have been able to deduce, the SHIKARI knives were made early in the pattern's production (circa 1966) as mine have Walden markings and low serial numbers on the pile side, as was common for fixed blades during the Schrade Walden years. Eventually, the as-yet-unknown customer may surface. Unique to this issue was the "pigskin" impressed sheath with stone pocket, and luggage/purse type button closure. If I am correct about the approximate production date, then this sheath was the basis for the later 1969-70 stone pocket sheaths of the Uncle Henry Prospector 165UH issue.
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Yup. The numbers I have seen don't range much higher, and since other than the sheath and shield, it is a production knife, it is logical to believe they were production serial numbers. 1,237 165OT's were indeed shipped in 1966, so if our assumptions are correct, your example dates to 1967.
I do like that change blade Bill! And what is not to like about the scrim! Can you show the newer members a closeup picture of the art and etch on that one?
Michael
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Great knives showing up here, in a Festival of Collectors Trophies!
It's true, who doesn't like to show their carefully "hunted" favorites and collections?? Look what you started, LRV!! Ain't we got fun!!
dlk, I like Herman Williams style of Stagging! He represents a continuation of Schrade history, a shoot from the trunk of the old Schrade tree!!
It's true, who doesn't like to show their carefully "hunted" favorites and collections?? Look what you started, LRV!! Ain't we got fun!!
dlk, I like Herman Williams style of Stagging! He represents a continuation of Schrade history, a shoot from the trunk of the old Schrade tree!!
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thanks mashduck lets see yours!!! stomper nice to see around these parts, hadent heard from ya in a while.- Joel
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john- you probablly wanna get rid of that dont ya... now that your making your own knives (nice ones I might add) and your a known buck collector, you've probablly got so much on your plate your probablly dying to get rid of that old thing arent ya, I can get rid of it for ya.LOL - Joel
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Man you guys have some sweet Schrades!!!
Maybe one day I will have LARGE Schrade collections like you all
I got a good head start with the Prince Albert tin Joel sent me!
It still has the tobbaca' in it :thumbup:
And I got my dad's 8OT that I found Thanksgiving
That one is priceless to me
( I get choked up just thinking about it)
Here is my all time favorite Schrade knife (fixed blade anyways)
And no I don't have an original sheath for this one either :grumpy:
Of course the best part I like about this knife is the Schrade history
Who made this knife?
Where did he go for lunch that day?
Did he drive a Ford or a Chevy?
Did he like Mets or the Yankees?
Did he put down a half hour for his lunch even though he/she too an HOUR lunch?
Did he like working for Schrade or was he just another worker staring at the clock until quitting time?
Who was the 1st owner of this knife?
What did he pay for it?
What did he use it for?
For some reason I can't get those vivid imaginations with a Chinese Schrade knife
Then again maybe some kid in Beijing has similar imaginations
Did he drive a Toyota or Nissan?........
Maybe one day I will have LARGE Schrade collections like you all
I got a good head start with the Prince Albert tin Joel sent me!
It still has the tobbaca' in it :thumbup:
And I got my dad's 8OT that I found Thanksgiving
That one is priceless to me
( I get choked up just thinking about it)
Here is my all time favorite Schrade knife (fixed blade anyways)
And no I don't have an original sheath for this one either :grumpy:
Of course the best part I like about this knife is the Schrade history
Who made this knife?
Where did he go for lunch that day?
Did he drive a Ford or a Chevy?
Did he like Mets or the Yankees?
Did he put down a half hour for his lunch even though he/she too an HOUR lunch?
Did he like working for Schrade or was he just another worker staring at the clock until quitting time?
Who was the 1st owner of this knife?
What did he pay for it?
What did he use it for?
For some reason I can't get those vivid imaginations with a Chinese Schrade knife
Then again maybe some kid in Beijing has similar imaginations
Did he drive a Toyota or Nissan?........
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I have several boxes filled with knives, but this one is kinda special. Not a NIB knife, but one that my semi-adopted Dad gave me before he passed away a few months ago. Not something to keep and treasure, but something to use. He was a very practical man, fluff did not mean much to him.
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Here is one a bit off the beaten track, from back in the vaults of Camillus history. I added a bit of background so that you can understand how it relates to the modern Schrade and Camillus companies.
W. H. Morley & Son was a mark used on imported cutlery by Adolph Kastor & Brothers, importers in NYC.
As far as can be determined, the name itself was fictitious and simply intended by the Kastors to Americanize the imported knives for sales appeal. While until recently it was thought that W.H. Morley & Son was a Kastor trademark and nothing more, Mr. Williams has provided me with copies of archive documents which strongly suggest that the name was actually a Kastor owned corporation (?-1950), as was A.W. Wadsworth & Sons (1910-1950) and Stainless Cutlery Co. (1923-1958+).
This particular example is marked W. H. Morley & Son, Germany, indicating the likely manufacture at the Kastors Germania Cutlery Works in Ohligs-Solingen under the direction of Nathan Kastor. This Kastor branding was particularly favored for sale by the hardware jobber Hibbard, Spencer, Bartlett & Co. of Chicago.
The advertising mark
The factory
The knife
As you can see, this simple ebony handled gentlemans knife is decorated with the Masonic details indicating Freemason 32nd degree. The two blades are a common spear pocket blade and a manicure blade with nail file. The Schrade brothers called this a Sunfish Lobster pattern.
John and Charlotte Goins date this mark to circa 1913-1927. We must remember the interruption of the cutlery import business during WWI (May,1915 - July,1919), so if Goins early date is correct, this knife dates from 1913-1915, 1919-1927. I am not certain where he found the 1913 date, so it is possible that it could be earlier, definately not much later as the Nazi leadership siezed the factory in 1938.
While this is a quite old knife, as you can see it is not in the best condition. The condition and the lack of popularity of the mark are the reasons I was able to buy it for about ten dollars.
Michael
W. H. Morley & Son was a mark used on imported cutlery by Adolph Kastor & Brothers, importers in NYC.
As far as can be determined, the name itself was fictitious and simply intended by the Kastors to Americanize the imported knives for sales appeal. While until recently it was thought that W.H. Morley & Son was a Kastor trademark and nothing more, Mr. Williams has provided me with copies of archive documents which strongly suggest that the name was actually a Kastor owned corporation (?-1950), as was A.W. Wadsworth & Sons (1910-1950) and Stainless Cutlery Co. (1923-1958+).
This particular example is marked W. H. Morley & Son, Germany, indicating the likely manufacture at the Kastors Germania Cutlery Works in Ohligs-Solingen under the direction of Nathan Kastor. This Kastor branding was particularly favored for sale by the hardware jobber Hibbard, Spencer, Bartlett & Co. of Chicago.
The advertising mark
The factory
The knife
As you can see, this simple ebony handled gentlemans knife is decorated with the Masonic details indicating Freemason 32nd degree. The two blades are a common spear pocket blade and a manicure blade with nail file. The Schrade brothers called this a Sunfish Lobster pattern.
John and Charlotte Goins date this mark to circa 1913-1927. We must remember the interruption of the cutlery import business during WWI (May,1915 - July,1919), so if Goins early date is correct, this knife dates from 1913-1915, 1919-1927. I am not certain where he found the 1913 date, so it is possible that it could be earlier, definately not much later as the Nazi leadership siezed the factory in 1938.
While this is a quite old knife, as you can see it is not in the best condition. The condition and the lack of popularity of the mark are the reasons I was able to buy it for about ten dollars.
Michael
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Here's a nice little addition to the Kastor saga. When Albert Baer was associated with Camillus, he gave this knife, from the Kastor-era archives to a friend. The friend was one of few salesmen who also collected knives.
One of the questions I asked employees of Queen, during tours, and when I was ordering specially made knives was, "do you collect them?". Almost all said no! I can't imagine not collecting myself!! Anyway I was lucky enough to aquire it last year, (for a bit more than $10). Codger got more history for his 10 bucks, so he got the better deal by far! <g>
One of the questions I asked employees of Queen, during tours, and when I was ordering specially made knives was, "do you collect them?". Almost all said no! I can't imagine not collecting myself!! Anyway I was lucky enough to aquire it last year, (for a bit more than $10). Codger got more history for his 10 bucks, so he got the better deal by far! <g>
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Dave, nice Williams collection!! So YOUR the one whose been outbidding me:grumpy:
Nice tie in on the Morley knives, can't say as I have many of the Camillus related knives.
I'm afraid I'd be totally broke rather than almost broke if I ventured any farther into the knife universe One question, what does "sole agent" translate to in modern terms?
Eric
Nice tie in on the Morley knives, can't say as I have many of the Camillus related knives.
I'm afraid I'd be totally broke rather than almost broke if I ventured any farther into the knife universe
One question, what does "sole agent" translate to in modern terms?Eric