Is the Westinghouse Linen the same as what people refer to when they show off their "Butterscotch" micarta? If not, I'd love to see what the butterscotch looks like initially.
To me, the butterscotch Micarta and Butterscotch Bakelite are identical. Can anyone that has seen/handle both in person comment on their thoughts? Just trying to get a better understanding of this stuff!
Real "micarta" is fiber reinforced, but other than that, they're both phenolic resin materials. Westinghouse made some non-fiber reinforced phenolics, which are just high grade bakelite fundamentally. They originally called it bakelite but I think the later "ivorite" was their trade name for it.
Now, there were also lots of other domestic phenolic makers, of various qualities, but almost all superior to the import material of these days (some were better than westinghouse IMO, I know, sacrilege, right?), and I've seen paper, linen, and canvas based "butterscotch", of various qualities. Most of what a lot of us refer to just as "butterscotch" is paper based. Some of the prettiest color I've had has been a little chippy, compared to the best paper phenolics I've had, but it's definitely superior to most mass produced "bakelite" that isn't reinforced with anything, as far as chippiness.
Most of the "butterscotch" gets pretty caramel colored over time, to almost a dark burgundy color if it's old enough, inside is usually a creamy yellow, similar to ivory paper once it's aged.
Mr. Appleby's photo above is a very rich color, and clearly a very fine linen, I've seen some similar stuff that I'd refer to as a gold linen myself, but that's the "aged" color of the material I've got. If his photo shows a recently ground/finished color, before it's aged, I'd agree that it's butterscotch.
With all of this stuff, we're operating based on a lot of speculation and faith, "Westinghouse Micarta" has become a catch-all for "vintage high quality domestically produced fiber reinforced phenolic". I think this is a mistake we've allowed to proliferate. I don't personally give a shit if it was made by westinghouse or one of the other top domestic phenolic makers, and frankly prefer certain configurations I know were made by other-than-Westinghouse. Frankly, unless there's a westinghouse stamp or sticker on it still, it's totally a guess as to who made it, but you can very easily identify whether it's vintage domestic good shit. All the legit vintage stuff from the early 80s or before, exhibits some aging characteristics.
There was however, a LOT of low quality bakelite being made in various eastern block and third world countries, from the same time period. Some bakelite and catalin is really dimensionally unstable, chippy, or just falling apart. However, of good quality bakelite/catalin, or any other phenolic resin variations, I don't think there's any reason for the interesting stuff to be any less desirable. We just need to stop trying to call everything "Westinghouse", and more importantly, make it clear to customers and other makers, that "Westinghouse" itself, doesn't really mean shit. Cool, old-ass, and quality, is way more important than what company made it. Westinghouse was good quality typically, but more importantly, they had exceptional branding, marketing, and aggressive business tactics. Micarta was just a trade name though, for the same shit others were making without that name.