Any news on the Spydiechef's availability?

4mer_FMF said:
Hi guys.

I’m just wondering for frame of reference:
Is this the type of lockup you all are griping about? (QCI 1 Chef pictured)

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Could be my crappy eyes, but the lockup on that CQI 1 of yours is one of the better dialed in ones. To me, that one looks barely past 50%. Where would you put it at, looking at it live & direct, about 55-60%? I personally wouldn’t have any gripes at all about that lockup (and I’m one of the gripe’rs).
 
Fullflat said:
Could be my crappy eyes, but the lockup on that CQI 1 of yours is one of the better dialed in ones. To me, that one looks barely past 50%. Where would you put it at, looking at it live & direct, about 55-60%? I personally wouldn’t have any gripes at all about that lockup (and I’m one of the gripe’rs).
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I’d say it’s about 60%, maybe just a bit less than what Casinostocks Casinostocks showed in his (superb) pictures.

Given the size of the lock bar and its geometry, I wouldn’t want much less than what I have.

Then again, I’m not the reigning champion of wearing lockbars through to the show scale. ;) :D

I hope ya’lls lock stick goes away easily (mine needed a sharpie initially, then a week or two of normal use).
 
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I’m about to pull the trigger on one. Can anyone who bought from the latest batch (black hardware) check and see if there’s any lock slip or vertical blade play? My Paysan experience has me paranoid.

Thanks!
 
Perhaps_OCD? said:
I’m about to pull the trigger on one. Can anyone who bought from the latest batch (black hardware) check and see if there’s any lock slip or vertical blade play? My Paysan experience has me paranoid.

Thanks!
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None of that stuff with this Spydiechef or the 1st-Gen one (before CQI) which I had owned. Those issues which had afflicted and bedeviled the Paysan were most likely accentuated because of that heavy chunk of blade and the wimpish lock and detent ball. I've never heard about those issue with the Slysz designed knives: Bowie, Spydiechef, Techno!
 
Casinostocks said:
None of that stuff with this Spydiechef or the 1st-Gen one (before CQI) which I had owned. Those issues which had afflicted and bedeviled the Paysan were most likely accentuated because of that heavy chunk of blade and the wimpish lock and detent ball. I've never heard about those issue with the Slysz designed knives: Bowie, Spydiechef, Techno!
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Thanks!
 
Today I learned I’m an idiot, and the Spydiechef I bought this afternoon has lock issues.

I put on cut resistant gloves, held my knife exactly like the first photo, verified lock engagement (~70%) then wiggled the blade 3 times. It made an audible tick twice then the lock failed and blade cut through the glove.

I am done with frame lock Spyderco’s. I’m also done testing locks that way haha.

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Not a fan of the black hardware. I liked the matte gray finish on the old ones, it firs better with the scales.

Is the clip shinier than on the old ones? And does the scales have a less coarse stonewash?
 
Perhaps_OCD? said:
Today I learned I’m an idiot, and the Spydiechef I bought this afternoon has lock issues.

I put on cut resistant gloves, held my knife exactly like the first photo, verified lock engagement (~70%) then wiggled the blade 3 times. It made an audible tick twice then the lock failed and blade cut through the glove.

I am done with frame lock Spyderco’s. I’m also done testing locks that way haha.

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Ouch! On a positive note, you were at least wise enough to put a glove on. In my case, I just trusted too much the hype of "built like a tank" (you know which company it is) and with my bare hands to check the blade lockup, ending up in an ER room to be stitched up.
 
Perhaps_OCD? said:
Today I learned I’m an idiot, and the Spydiechef I bought this afternoon has lock issues.

I put on cut resistant gloves, held my knife exactly like the first photo, verified lock engagement (~70%) then wiggled the blade 3 times. It made an audible tick twice then the lock failed and blade cut through the glove.

I am done with frame lock Spyderco’s. I’m also done testing locks that way haha.

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Welp, shoot man! I feel badly about this since my opinion was that these Slysz series should and would not be as bad as the Paysan was for the reasons which I had mentioned! Crap!

I wonder this: in real life use, what kinda situation and torque do you foresee causing such failure and inflicting the sorta damage which will require an ER visit? I get the curiosity factor to test the vertical strength in the opposite direction as opposed to the direction the knife gets used! Yes there are scenarios when say a knife gets stuck in cardboard so a sudden and violet yanking motion can cause this sorta accident but how often for a folder which is supposedly a folding kitchen environment cutter!
 
^ Sorry to see that injury man!

This is where I’m ok with some lock stick. More security. It’s also where I’m not a big fan of frame locks. Don’t you hear about more failures on these than liner locks even?

But I think what Mat is touching on is what I struggle with on lock strength concerns too. When I’m using a knife, pressure is almost always being applied to the edge. Unless I’m stabbing cardboard straight on, or drilling with the tip (which I rarely if ever do with a folder), I don’t see many real world situations that would apply pressure to the spine.

If in doubt, at all, I’m going fixed.
 
sharp_edge said:
Ouch! On a positive note, you were at least wise enough to put a glove on. In my case, I just trusted too much the hype of "built like a tank" (you know which company it is) and with my bare hands to check the blade lockup, ending up in an ER room to be stitched up.
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Haha yes, I’m glad I had a glove on.

Casinostocks said:
Welp, shoot man! I feel badly about this since my opinion was that these Slysz series should and would not be as bad as the Paysan was for the reasons which I had mentioned! Crap!

I wonder this: in real life use, what kinda situation and torque do you foresee causing such failure and inflicting the sorta damage which will require an ER visit? I get the curiosity factor to test the vertical strength in the opposite direction as opposed to the direction the knife gets used! Yes there are scenarios when say a knife gets stuck in cardboard so a sudden and violet yanking motion can cause this sorta accident but how often for a folder which is supposedly a folding kitchen environment cutter!
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Do not feel bad! I knew the risk. The cut is 95% my fault and maybe 5% Spyderco’s. Haha. To your point, in real world use it would only be an issue if you had you wiggle your blade out of something it’s stuck in. Perhaps a bone in a piece of meat if used as a butcher knife. I don’t plan on using this to cook with tho.

mb> said:
^ Sorry to see that injury man!

This is where I’m ok with some lock stick. More security. It’s also where I’m not a big fan of frame locks. Don’t you hear about more failures on these than liner locks even?

But I think what Mat is touching on is what I struggle with on lock strength concerns too. When I’m using a knife, pressure is almost always being applied to the edge. Unless I’m stabbing cardboard straight on, or drilling with the tip (which I rarely if ever do with a folder), I don’t see many real world situations that would apply pressure to the spine.

If in doubt, at all, I’m going fixed.
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No problem man. I agree on the real world usage. However, it took ridiculously little effort to fail. It wasn’t any more force than you’d use to check for side to side blade wiggle. The 4 Paysan’s I tested that had the issue lots were complaining about were fucking tanks compared to this. I wouldn’t want to chop any hard food because wiggling a stuck blade out of a pineapple or something would be too much for the lock to handle.

Here’s the hilariously shitty part... my knife still has bad lock stick. Haha. Nice job Spyderco.
 
Perhaps_OCD? Perhaps_OCD? So much for the sticky lock being safer idea I guess.

Good point on the stuck in food scenario. I hadn’t considered that since I don’t have that use in mind.

The only good part about being cut with a sharp knife is it tends to heal well in my experience.
 
blame it on god said:
All this made me look at my (pre CQI) chef and give it a medium/soft spine whack. Lock up is pretty late, but it's secure.

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Mine had zero issues with the 10 medium spine whacks I did AFTER I had the lock fail (I’m a curious dude lol). It didn’t like 3 light wiggles. The lock bar on these Spyderco’s are ridiculously narrow. Wiggling the blade makes it flex and move back towards the spine then forward and slightly left where it then fails.
 
mb> said:
Perhaps_OCD? Perhaps_OCD? So much for the sticky lock being safer idea I guess.

Good point on the stuck in food scenario. I hadn’t considered that since I don’t have that use in mind.

The only good part about being cut with a sharp knife is it tends to heal well in my experience.
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My original plans for this knife were to keep it pristine in the knife case on my dresser, play with it when watching TV, and open an Amazon package every now and then. Haha. After I got it, I really liked its thinness and decided it might be a good EDC. It didn’t pass my EDC test lol.

I get cut and scraped enough working on projects in my garage that I keep surgical glue and steri strips on hand. The cut doesn’t upset me, because it took 5 minutes to fix / take care of. The knife having a shit lock is something I cannot fix and is the only thing upsetting. Lol
 
Perhaps_OCD? said:
Do not feel bad! I knew the risk. The cut is 95% my fault and maybe 5% Spyderco’s. Haha. To your point, in real world use it would only be an issue if you had you wiggle your blade out of something it’s stuck in. Perhaps a bone in a piece of meat if used as a butcher knife. I don’t plan on using this to cook with tho.
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The things I wouldn't do in the name of science and also my dedication to BF.com and my brudahs in knife :D

OK, I just gloved up, the "no-cry" type which you buy for use in the kitchen or to use with Wicked-Edge (5th or 6th degree, I don't recall exactly but probably the lesser), started spine whacking on a thick piece of foam at first and when that didn't fail on me, I put a piece of towel on my wooden work bench and started whacking harder (no gutter minds here; remember this is for SCIENCE!) moving my hand up and down the handle! Nothing, nada! Then I started dickering with the blade applying spine to edge force to disengage the lock and still nada! Now, I would've applied a lot more force and pressure if I was wearing thick faux leather or something work gloves, what I did was no less than say a pineapple test.

Could it be that what you got and received is a weak faulty one? I still have a tad or stick or rather click, but I'm fine with this sample as it is.
 
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