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Balls_tothe_Walls (Heath Helton) is a scammer

Discussion in 'Hall of Shame' started by thtieu, Dec 19, 2017.

  1. LastRodeo

    LastRodeo Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Nov 2, 2013
    IDK, something still doesn't make sense to me with this situation. I'm sure Balls can explain though...

    If the fraudulent transactions occurred between July and October, why didn't it get reported to the credit card company until November?

    Also, presumably when it was reported, Balls told them which transactions were fraudulent. If Balls was disputing specific transactions, why would the credit card company charge back all these legitimate transactons?
  2. Otto Carpenter

    Otto Carpenter Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 24, 2016
    You just motivated me to search that feature out. It's not immediately apparent, though (deselect "Open" in the OP thread options). Thank you, lieferung.
    lieferung likes this.
  3. mwehrwein3030


    Aug 6, 2017
    It's pee_e_in_eye_s

    I got the same thing. I'm assuming he paid you f&f? I got the same message. I called PayPal to see what the fine was about.

    They said, the bank actually fines $100, and they, PayPal, pays $80 of it. So the $20 is left to you. They also said that, since it was the bank, and balls approved the purchase with paypal, he must then approve it with the bank.

    They also said banks take a while. Could take between 75-90 days. However, PayPal lady told me it's "typically around 30 days, but no guarantee". I'm assuming the people who had gotten their money back paid goods and services.
  4. thtieu

    thtieu Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 2, 2017
    Title of this thread has been updated now. My issue with PP is still unresolved.
  5. DNAIrradiator

    DNAIrradiator Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 3, 2013
    Still waiting for this to be resolved. I have now been charged two $20 fines as the others have mentioned bringing my PayPal balance to a whooping negative $640!! I do a lot of business through PayPal and this is incredibly infuriating. I can’t buy anything and I can’t sell anything.

    I’d really appreciate an update from Balls.

    I’m trying to inject some Xmas spirit into this but it just keeps looking like coal to me...
  6. palonej

    palonej Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Aug 5, 2015
    Uh oh.
    Is something smelling a bit off??
  7. thtieu

    thtieu Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 2, 2017
    I was paid by G&S. Haven't been charged the fine, but also hasn't been resolved yet either.
  8. katanas


    Jan 6, 2012
    Curiouser and curiouser! :confused: o_O
  9. stonesell

    stonesell Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 20, 2009
    This really seems more than a bit strange. It's hard to believe that it's all PayPal being incredibly inept and inconsiderate to everyone.
  10. RayseM

    RayseM Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 18, 2010
    Though I don't have a dog in this fight (money in dispute) I have been reading with interest for my own future protection.

    I thank you for accepting my suggestion and changing the thread title. I truly hope that this all gets resolved to everyone's benefit. Sucks to have to go through it.

    Good luck.

  11. Gastonknife

    Gastonknife Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 15, 2008
    Hopefully this will all work out for all. Based on some of the feedback i think balls deserves the benefit of the doubt for now. It won't take too long for everyone to know whether the situation is legit or not.
    benchwarmer380 likes this.
  12. 9Nine

    9Nine Gold Member Gold Member

    Sep 27, 2014
    So people who attempted to defraud PayPal were fined 20 dollars when these transactions went sour? Sounds okay to me. Just another incentive to stop that nonsense.
    OilMan, Badhammer, Beak14 and 3 others like this.
  13. mwehrwein3030


    Aug 6, 2017
    The way they explained it to me, the banks fines PayPal $100. PayPal pays $80 of it, you pay $20.
  14. Peter Hartwig

    Peter Hartwig Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 29, 2008
    It does show one more benefit of G&S. Shouldn't the G&S PP sellers be protected from loss on PP approved transactions?

    But I don't really understand why the bank is fining sellers. Even if they weren't authorized transactions by the credit card owner(which these were), how is the seller at fault. They aren't part of the fraud and would already be out their money(if there was credit card fraud).
    I guess the answer is they are banks-sometimes only a slight step higher then the scammers :)
  15. mwehrwein3030


    Aug 6, 2017
    You're right, doesn't make sense. This info was also coming from a PayPal customer service representative where English was not her native.You could call right now and probably get a different answer. So who really knows...
  16. palonej

    palonej Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Aug 5, 2015
    Well that’s reassuring, isn’t it??

  17. DNAIrradiator

    DNAIrradiator Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 3, 2013
    I’d appreciate an update from Balls. He’s been curiously quiet the last few days.

    I’m going to ignore folks that somehow think myself and the other sellers that Balls bought from are somehow “scammers.” Maybe you should read this thread fully (and perhaps look at our feedback stats) before making comments. I’m in for double the money because Balls paid for my one knife twice, the second payment I immediately refunded. However I get the fun of being dinged for both transactions, and now two of these mystery fines. Again, not sure how this is any of our fault.

    I guess I’ll ask one more time: can we please get an update Balls??
    Redx72 likes this.
  18. Redx72

    Redx72 Gold Member Gold Member

    Apr 16, 2013
    I would also appreciate an update. I asked for Balls to contact me a couple of days ago (I need some information from him to fully contest the claim on PayPal) and he hasn’t yet reached out. @Balls_tothe_Walls, we’d all appreciate an update. Thanks
  19. Peter Hartwig

    Peter Hartwig Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 29, 2008
    Not sure who you think is calling the sellers scammers. It is obvious that you unintentional being drawn into a separate problem of BTTW's. Hopefully his lack of participation on the thread is due to him being busy trying to clear up the problem.
    Best of luck to all-hope it gets fixed soon for you.
  20. palonej

    palonej Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Aug 5, 2015
    Hope no one took anything I said about the ones affected being scammers.
    That was the LAST thing I was thinking.
    Sorry if my statements weren’t clear guys. I’m still hoping no one is responsible and it gets cleared up for all soon.

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