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adluginb said:
Just when we are seeing 9mm sell for around $220 per 1000. Luckily I have around 4000 rounds now but the way my boy has started liking to shoot a lot that may not last long.

Could always use more .38 special for my sons Python if anyone sees a good deal.
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Do you reload?

38 Special is probably the easiest of all to reload.
 
adluginb said:
Just when we are seeing 9mm sell for around $220 per 1000. Luckily I have around 4000 rounds now but the way my boy has started liking to shoot a lot that may not last long.

Could always use more .38 special for my sons Python if anyone sees a good deal.
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As of now, I don't think 9mm/pistol ammo is the big concern.

The Lake City plant has said they are putting non military/government orders on hold for now, as all production is being prioritized for government orders.

Haven't heard what kind of damage occurred from the explosion at the Hornady plant (aside from 1 fatality. RIP 😔), or if it will affect their production, but between those 2, and Israel being at war (which means IMI's production will be prioritized for their use), the near immediate backlash has been with rifle ammo, specifically 5.56/.223.

The panic buying has made 5.56 stock disappear from retailers. The prices at retailers who still have stock, has spiked in the past few days, and the internet abounds with claims (who knows if they're real or BS?) from retailers who've stated that their suppliers have claimed they don't know when 5.56 orders will be filled/restocked.
 
carnifex knifeworks said:
There will be a trickle down effect though. If people can't hoard 556/223, they'll go to 9mm and 10mm, etc. When that starts getting expensive or scarce, you'll see 12 guage shells vanishing, etc.

Similar things have happened in the past.
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Yeah. Never underestimate the effects of panic buying. Eg. I still remember friends in Cleveland, sending me photos of the lines going around the block at the LGS, when the shutdowns were announced and suddenly, EVERYONE decided they had to get guns/ammo.

Had some buddies texting, "Hey, a few of us are going to the LGS to stock up. Wanna meet up at XXXX?".

"Thanks, but I'll pass".

Then the texts about how the stores were limiting customers to one box each, of rifle and pistol ammo.

Between the panic buying spike in 2020, and inflation, prices have never dropped back to what they were pre-2020 (I recall 9mm being available for $150/case shipped, and 5.56/M193/M855 for $260/case shipped in Jan 2020).

With Lake City and IMI putting a hold on civilian orders indefinitely, CCI/Speer potentially being sold off to CSG etc., who knows what the new normal for prices and availability will be?
 
Well my son missed a huge 10 pt maybe 11pt this morning. Hopefully he will be back tonight. Man it took me 20 years of hunting before I got a shot at one as big as this one. Crazy didn’t even know this buck was around as he hasn’t been on any cameras. I’ve killed over 120 deer before I stopped counting and I had the buck fever just watching through the binocs as my son shot. I guess that’s why they call it deer hunting and not deer shooting.

Just glad he got the opportunity to see one that big his first time out. I think he is hooked for life now.
 
And if any of those boneheads were to look, a Ruger mini 14 is still legal out there although it has to look like a “ regular rifle” and come with 10 round mags. Optics are ok.
5.56 ammo all day long….
I know it’s pricey, needs some accuracy work, but still, in the secondary market there’s gotta be some deals out there
 
Well the day couldn’t have ended any better. We watched 7 does this evening and then with only about 4-5 minutes of light left to see through the scope this guy walks in at 75 yards. He was full rutting and zeroing in on where the does last were. He stopped broadside right in front of us.

Literally my 12yo son’s 2nd time to hunt today and he gets a 8pt buck. It wasn’t the huge guy he missed this morning but I couldn’t be more proud of him! I started hunting at age 7 with my dad and didn’t get my first buck until I was 16.
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I just ran across "pewview" on youtube. He's a firearms enthusiast that does trick shots, etc. such as shooting clays out of the air with a 9mm pistol. I'm not sure if he's a competitive shooter, but I would assume so.

Here's what I'm pondering: he said it's harder to shoot a clay out of the air with a red dot than with iron sights. I would think that a red dot would be easier because you don't need to line up 3 components (rear sight, front sight, target/clay). He was saying that it's harder because you can lose the red dot easier if you're not aligned properly. I can definitely see the merit in what he's saying.

What do you all think?
 
carnifex knifeworks said:
I just ran across "pewview" on youtube. He's a firearms enthusiast that does trick shots, etc. such as shooting clays out of the air with a 9mm pistol. I'm not sure if he's a competitive shooter, but I would assume so.

Here's what I'm pondering: he said it's harder to shoot a clay out of the air with a red dot than with iron sights. I would think that a red dot would be easier because you don't need to line up 3 components (rear sight, front sight, target/clay). He was saying that it's harder because you can lose the red dot easier if you're not aligned properly. I can definitely see the merit in what he's saying.

What do you all think?
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For those kinds of things, the reality is, those guys aren't really training their sight alignment. There's not enough time. They're training their instinctive alignment/muscle memory.

What people DO notice, when switching from irons to RDSs, is that it's easier to lose the sight picture, but they're unaware that it's not what they're focusing on when they've practiced doing those shot with irons. It's just more obvious with a glowing red dot that they see (or don't see) overlapped on the target.

If you removed any/all sights from the pistol, these guys would still make those shots (out of curiosity, I literally tested this by removing the sights, once I was reasonably quick at drawing and firing 2 A-zone hits at 10 yards as fast as possible. It made no difference in times and splits. It was all muscle memory).

The thing the sights or RDS helps with, is dry fire repetition, to double check that your muscle memory is still good, i.e. routinely test/practice rapid draw and presentation with a confirmed unloaded pistol. If your sights/red dot aren't automatically aligned from muscle memory and you need to make minor corrections to get aligned/be on target, you need more practice.

P.S.

What's even crazier, are the videos of guys shooting aspirin thrown in the air, with slingshot or traditional bows. Now that's some crazy level of instinctive shooting.
 
adluginb said:
Well the day couldn’t have ended any better. We watched 7 does this evening and then with only about 4-5 minutes of light left to see through the scope this guy walks in at 75 yards. He was full rutting and zeroing in on where the does last were. He stopped broadside right in front of us.

Literally my 12yo son’s 2nd time to hunt today and he gets a 8pt buck. It wasn’t the huge guy he missed this morning but I couldn’t be more proud of him! I started hunting at age 7 with my dad and didn’t get my first buck until I was 16.
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raise them in the ways they should go
 
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