Concealed carry recommendations

I'm partial to the 642/442/340.

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That last one is light enough to carry in the pockets of gym shorts.

150 grain hardcast wadcutters at 859 ft/s and its a mean little hole puncher.
 
The above is true, with an exception.

Decided a few days ago I was done posting in threads about guns, to many opinions, but this subject is something I have a bit of experience and first hand knowledge of.

The lead issue isn't something that's been or can be fixed and its not just with Glocks, its an issue with all pistols with Glock type rifling. It just happened to be more of an issue with Glock because of the way the chambers are made, and most of the issues I saw, and heard of were with the .40.

Doesn't seem to matter if its soft lead or hard, its just a matter of time and the front portion, (from chamber) about an inch or two, will get lead basically melted to the inside and fill the rifling. Firing a copper jacketed bullet through it will clean it out, sort of, but it can also cause to much pressure and the chamber being the way it is can fail.
From what I've seen, and heard, and shot, just use a few copper jacketed bullets every fifty rounds of lead or so seem to take care of the issue.

I used to shoot Ultra Max, ( Glock .40) back in 04 , 05, a lot, I mean 500 to a 1000 rounds a weekend at least once a month, sometimes twice a month. I never blew up a gun, but I did brake a few, noticed the lead coating the front of the barrel after about 100 rounds and shot it out. Glock came out and stated that you shouldn't use lead bullets, (Minus a jacket) in their pistols, haven't looked to see if that's still the case, but they had a bunch of failures back then so that was their policy to fix the issue.
I think If I remember correctly the failures were coming from continuous firing of lead and no cleaning and eventually the chamber and the front of the barrel would just give.
Basically the leading would cause the caliber of the barrel to be to tight for the projectile to go through, (Think 9mm hole and .40 bullet) without the barrel and unsupported (Not as supported as others) chamber to stay together, causing a failure.

So, JMO, if you are going to shoot lead bullets, pay attention, shouldn't be a problem, I know most of the people on here are lead slinging, gun fighting, big **** dragging operators that have BTDT and have the passport stamps and t-shirts to prove it.

Merry Christmas and Happy Hanukkah.

PS, I only quoted the above post because I agreed with it and just thought I needed to add something to it.

The 40 cal thing though could be the leading issue for the first bit of rifling, pressure of the round, run a gas check in them and it probably would be fine.

A friend runs hard cast in his 45 Glocks with no leading, but instead of using a gas check, he casts his own bullets and uses linotype to harden things up.

Just thinking out loud. I don't use lead bullets unless in a .41 mag or 38spl, I'm just not huge into them with the cost of plated bullets anymore so I rarely use them. Got one friend that loads a ton of lead, some of his guns shoot it well, some don't. He had a couple thousand 9mm where the lead was ridiculously soft, only thing he found that wouldn't choke on them was a Hi Point carbine got got for $50, that and he didn't care what happened to that one

I love SIGs, I really do. Unfortunately they can't be in the running due to two primary factors; weight and cost. One and two pounds empty, and a lot of them carrying a price tag of $1,000 or more. That's way, way out of my price range, especially if I ever have to actually use it and then it's going to be sitting in an evidence lockup room for the better part of a year.

The 290RS, Sig is actually discontinuing that one if I remember right. Without night sights, retail is $399 on down, night sights I think was $450. It's a double action only semi auto. Maybe a little hefty, most the weight is in the slide and barrel, but it has very little recoil and I shoot it well

So I've heard. But sorting out what's good and what's not is difficult to do.

I've got a 19, that's why I want a 26. Haven't figured out how I'm going to configure it though.

I missed the part where you had a 19. Have you tried carrying IWB with it before? I think since you have a 19 there would be no reason to get a 26 for it, canted holster and you're GTG.

[/quote]So what's wrong with the Remington?[/QUOTE]

Better question is what's right with the Remington. Remington screwed the pooch on these big time. First gens wouldn't run and have a permanent recall on them. Gen 2s have no audible or tactile trigger reset. I was at a show when the R51 just came out. I only put 1 magazine through it and didn't experience any issues. But seeing other people, I noticed a lot were having FTE and FTF issues. There were 3 guns in the rotation and when not being used, the Remington people were hosing the pistols in R51 to clean/lube them.
 
Beretta Nano? Standard 6 rd mag but also available with an extended 8 rd mag. You can also get a laser on it too. Beretta makes a great product.
Springfield XD/XD mod 2, 9mm, 3" subcompact? Bigger then your LCP but 13+1. All the external safeties might not appeal to some folks.
S&W MP Shield. My wife uses this as her CCW.
 
If you don't plan on carrying IWB, then I don't think any of the pistols you listed in your original post are going to work for pocket carry.

You may need to look into touchable holsters as Wheeler suggested.

You can most certainly pocket carry J Frame Smiths, the Kahr CW9 and the Ruger LC9s - I've done the first two and my son pocket carried his LC9 all the time (before he sold it in favor of a Shield). Other holsters would be nice too but pocket carry (in a pocket holster of course) works just fine.
 
You can most certainly pocket carry J Frame Smiths, the Kahr CW9 and the Ruger LC9s - I've done the first two and my son pocket carried his LC9 all the time (before he sold it in favor of a Shield). Other holsters would be nice too but pocket carry (in a pocket holster of course) works just fine.

Cargo pocket, or front pocket?
 
GK is correct, I also front pocket carry my j-frames. Galco horsehide front pocket holster.
 
I front pocket carry my 43 all the time. I have 2 of these holsters, one rh & one lh. If I need to be ultra discrete, I'm wearing gym shorts, or if I'm being lazy it works perfectly.

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a neighbor was a police detective at the 41st prec in ny and he told me he carried a smith wesson 37 in an ankle holster and another in his waistband and a third (a bodyguard) in his pocket. he said many cops carried the same way. on a side note he looks just like larry david.
 
a neighbor was a police detective at the 41st prec in ny and he told me he carried a smith wesson 37 in an ankle holster and another in his waistband and a third (a bodyguard) in his pocket. he said many cops carried the same way. on a side note he looks just like larry david.

Theres a reason that just grabbing another gun in a fight is called the "New York reload!"
 
The J frame has been my preferred carry since the early 70's. I've carried 1911's, and most every other form of semi auto handgun from time to time over the last forty years, but I always come back to the revolver. Pull = bang. Never had a malfunction in tens of thousands of rounds...never.
 
The J frame has been my preferred carry since the early 70's. I've carried 1911's, and most every other form of semi auto handgun from time to time over the last forty years, but I always come back to the revolver. Pull = bang. Never had a malfunction in tens of thousands of rounds...never.

Don't jinx it. That firing pin isn't going to last forever.
 
Don't jinx it. That firing pin isn't going to last forever.

The hammer nose on a forged S&W seldom needs replacement. I have a few spare hammer noses and rivets, but I've never had one break or wear out. I don't own an S&W centerfire with a frame mounted firing pin.

Of the dozens I've owned only the rimfires (frame mounted firing pin) have exhibited any issues with misfires or extraction.
 
Front pocket carry a G43 in a Blackhawk #3 or a 360PD in a Galco horsehide. Both are very comfortable for jeans or slacks.
 
The J frame has been my preferred carry since the early 70's. I've carried 1911's, and most every other form of semi auto handgun from time to time over the last forty years, but I always come back to the revolver. Pull = bang. Never had a malfunction in tens of thousands of rounds...never.

Nevers a long time, I have had a few and saw more than a few on ranges. Everything from pre 58 Smith's and post 58s .
Had a 686 lock up on me once, broke a main spring on a 1970s mod 10.
They all malfunction eventually, but I will agree revolvers do it less than autos.

Couldn't tell you how many people I've heard say thousands of rounds and never had a malfunction, I must be the exception to the rule.

Hell I've broken a couple glocks. Had more than a few AKs that wouldn't work for shit.

They all brake and malfunction eventually.

YMMV
 
The J frame has been my preferred carry since the early 70's. I've carried 1911's, and most every other form of semi auto handgun from time to time over the last forty years, but I always come back to the revolver. Pull = bang. Never had a malfunction in tens of thousands of rounds...never.
Nevers a long time, I have had a few and saw more than a few on ranges. Everything from pre 58 Smith's and post 58s .
Had a 686 lock up on me once, broke a main spring on a 1970s mod 10.
They all malfunction eventually, but I will agree revolvers do it less than autos.

Couldn't tell you how many people I've heard say thousands of rounds and never had a malfunction, I must be the exception to the rule.

Hell I've broken a couple glocks. Had more than a few AKs that wouldn't work for shit.

They all brake and malfunction eventually.

YMMV

Still, malfunctions with revolvers are exceedingly rare.

Which is precisely why I carry one.
 
Still, malfunctions with revolvers are exceedingly rare.

Which is precisely why I carry one.

so do I, have for years, my point wasn't auto versus revolver.
It was, They all brake, they all malfunction, so don't be surprised if one day your standing there and all you hear is a click,
or the trigger doesn't move,
or the hammer is stuck half way back,
or the cylinder wont release,
or wont move into position when you pull the trigger,
or the extractor star moves up but spins and wont go back down,
or the crane is stuck in place, so you cant reload.

My point is, they all brake, people read other posts and may, get the idea that they are foolproof or bombproof, like a Glock, (extreme sarcasm), and be completely surprised they have a malfunction.

(hopefully on the range) but usually when its the worst possible time, that's when it happens, makes the story funnier or sadder, depends on how much time you spent doing malfunction or immediate action drills.

My choice in what I carry, was in no way, at all, I cant stress enough how much, my choice in a carry gun was not influenced at all by the internet.
Fact is I was carrying before the internet was a word that I knew.

My choice came from trips to the range, gun shop, and talking to people face to face, and a lot more than I want to admit, by money, or lack of.

Not anymore, everybody here has seen it a dozen times, theres too many threads on here where the same question is asked,

"Hi, I've been slinging lead like a master for years but I want your opinion on what I should carry around and trust my life too"

The fact that they asked the question tells you the first part is bulls**t, so telling them that this gun has never malfunctioned or never broke in thousands of rounds seems like a sales pitch or at the least bad advice/information, and kinda leads me, to believe the person saying it is not what the say they are or have done what they say they have.
I am not pointing fingers, or a mouse at anybody, really.

Mostly because of my experience from the past nearly forty years, (hell the first rifle I was issued in the military was an A1, as in M16A1, went well with the steel pot).

Partly due to the fact that I just don't trust what I read, or what somebody says when I cant look them in the eye or talk to them face to face.

Thats the trouble with the internet, no idea whos typing on the other side of the screen, so all you can do is read what they write, and hopefully if you have some experience you can glean the good from the bad.
Or
You have no experience or knowledge and you take some bullshit for gospel and follow somebody's wagon off.

Internet is faceless, just a screen with words and pictures, taking advice on something as important as a carry gun is in my opinion a bit silly and maybe a bit irresponsible to yourself and people you may have to protect. JMO.

take the info here and go to the range, go to some competitions, some trainers, talk to some cops, or even some bad guys then take all that and all the combat experience from call of duty and youtube vids and head to the gun shop and get a 642 air weight and a couple of speed strips and don't look back:eek:

Signed, faceless person on the internet. JMHO, YMMV

Just had to add, I've been carrying a 642 for the last ten years and so far haven't felt under gunned at all and completely satisfied with the way it works and had no doubt that if I pulled it and pointed it and pulled the trigger it would put a hole in what I wanted it too.
 
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I finally got to test out the Ruger LCP yesterday. To say the recoil on it is unpleasant would be an understatement. The worst part is the trigger slapping your finger during recoil. I couldn't manage more than a couple of magazines before calling it quits because of how bad it hurt. I don't foresee this being a gun that's going to see much range time. More likely it's going to be carried often and shot very little.
 
My personal preference is a small revolver like the 642/442 or the LCR in 38spl. I like the dependability of a revolver and the ability to just pull the trigger again if there is a misfire. I can't say that I love the recoil on the 442, but how often do you actually shoot one of these guns that you might use at 5 yds or less?
 
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