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Corona thread. No politics please
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Edited for compliance, you should probs change the quote now lest you be political.
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Wow two is a very big number.
I can't imagine an bigger number of Dr anywhere saying anything different.
It makes me think of the math nerd joke for some reason:
"There are 10 kinds of people; those who understand binary, and those who don't".
Some people get math, some don't.
2 main groups of people who are asking for restrictions to stay in place: 1. people who can afford stay home- money in the bank, can work from home, can work around restrictions, or still getting a paycheck for whatever reasons 2. overwhelmed health care workers
If you mute group one, then the argument becomes a little more easier to follow:
how many people die immediately : suicide, from lack of access to medical care to treat other illnesses...is this number going to be greater or lesser than the number of covid deaths?
How many people die 'slow' deaths(can this number even be estimated?): loss of business, pushed into poverty which may be felt for generations, women and children locked up with their abusers etc
If there is a surge /second peak, does your health care facility have the resources to handle it?
If you are in group 2 and are still in favor of keeping restrictions in place, what is your criteria for lifting them?
If you mute group one, then the argument becomes a little more easier to follow:
how many people die immediately : suicide, from lack of access to medical care to treat other illnesses...is this number going to be greater or lesser than the number of covid deaths?
How many people die 'slow' deaths(can this number even be estimated?): loss of business, pushed into poverty which may be felt for generations, women and children locked up with their abusers etc
If there is a surge /second peak, does your health care facility have the resources to handle it?
If you are in group 2 and are still in favor of keeping restrictions in place, what is your criteria for lifting them?
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You aren't accounting for the censorship occuring or the fact that science does not work by concensus. You also aren't accounting for the doctors who are pressured to write Covid as the cause of death even if it either isn't or they can not determine that
Science actually kinda does work by consensus.
If you want something with hard unbend-able rules try spelling.
Scientific knowledge is built as people come up with hypotheses and theories, repeatedly check them against observations of the natural world and continue to refine those explanations based on new ideas and observations.
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you best watch yourself
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I'm considering taking bets on whether this thread makes it past this weekend or not. Right now, the odds are great on a lockdown which is unfortunate because in the banal section of Blade Forums aka the cesspool (to some) there is a fertile playground for those likeminded folks who do not like the POV of most of the participants in here.
Don't come in and sh*t on someone like Nathan's subforum because it will probably end up badly.
Don't come in and sh*t on someone like Nathan's subforum because it will probably end up badly.
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That does not contradict the point science does not work by concensus.
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Mate it's a virus. It doesn't care about your political views. The forum is full of places to argue. This isn't one of them. It's nice in here. That's how we like it. Please respect that.
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Some people can have a civil conversation on important topics without having to throw politics in the mix.
If you don’t like it, leave.
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As I have gotten older, I've learned that being in the throes and midst of some major crisis and by listening to and watching constant media coverage, specially those of the American media (left or right, although in no way I am drawing any equivalency between these two opposing camps) can be very dulling to one's willingness to remain intellectually unbiased.
So what has been my solution for my? Referring to history to research and to study past behaviors because as human beings, despite tremendous technological advances in the lat 100 years or so (1900 and on) today's human is really no more superior in terms of brain neurons as compared to our great great grand folks. Do yourselves a favor by studying the following major catastrophic events in the 20th century, who were the leaders at the time and what lead to and what lead people out of those situations: WWI / Spanish Flu / The original Stockmarket crash / The Great Depression / The rise of the NAZI Germany. You will find some key answers in them but may not like the time which it takes to rebuild burnt bridges.
So what has been my solution for my? Referring to history to research and to study past behaviors because as human beings, despite tremendous technological advances in the lat 100 years or so (1900 and on) today's human is really no more superior in terms of brain neurons as compared to our great great grand folks. Do yourselves a favor by studying the following major catastrophic events in the 20th century, who were the leaders at the time and what lead to and what lead people out of those situations: WWI / Spanish Flu / The original Stockmarket crash / The Great Depression / The rise of the NAZI Germany. You will find some key answers in them but may not like the time which it takes to rebuild burnt bridges.
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