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CPK EDC2

Discussion in 'Carothers Performance Knives' started by TRfromMT, Sep 1, 2017.

  1. JustinFournier

    JustinFournier Gold Member Gold Member

    May 7, 2012
    Did you ask to order without a sheath? I'm asking as I have done that in the past. Wondering if they discontinued that option.
     
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  2. Casinostocks

    Casinostocks Factotum Platinum Member

    Mar 20, 2016
    I had also won / ordered several EDC-1 versions in the past. I recall it was quite a while back when Jo had stated to me that they were no longer shipping out without any sheath option.
     
  3. ni1s

    ni1s

    683
    Feb 10, 2014
    I asked with the previous EDC and then it was not an option to get without a sheath. Other models I've received without a sheath.
     
  4. Casinostocks

    Casinostocks Factotum Platinum Member

    Mar 20, 2016
    I think that CPK used to be open to selling / shipping without a sheath when sheaths were available for a said pattern (some patterns like the BC had no sheath option) but IIRC it was around Sept of last year when they decided that they were no longer offer a W/O sheath option when sheaths were an integral part of a said pattern.
     
  5. extrastout

    extrastout Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 10, 2013
    So you have to yank the knife out of the vertical sheath?...I can't see any where on the top of the sheath where you can pop the knife out with your thumb, with more control. I'm hoping not...since edc's go in and out of the sheath a lot when using on a certain tasks, especially if your non knife hand is holding something up....that blade is in there deeep....looks tough on micarta handle scales over time
     
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  6. extrastout

    extrastout Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 10, 2013
    Wasn't mashed cat making the sheaths...The video I believe said its a Dozier sheath. The style is definitely Dozier
     
  7. mwramos76

    mwramos76

    362
    Jun 28, 2013

    Nathan had advised that he went with Dozier a couple of weeks ago I think.
     
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  8. Casinostocks

    Casinostocks Factotum Platinum Member

    Mar 20, 2016
    Mashedcat presented a pattern to bid for the job, but Nathan ultimately decided to go with Dozier who had done the original sheaths for EDC-1. Nathan wrote up his reasoning behind this and it was ultimately his decision in conference with Jo the Real Boss ;)

    I assume that since Eric has already bid on this pattern, many of us will also be contacting him for one of his sheaths too for the EDC-2. I went with horizontal just for that reason :thumbsup: but I understand concerns if further cost would be an obstacle.
     
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  9. extrastout

    extrastout Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 10, 2013
    Awwww....I was psyched he originally chose mashed cat....The sheath is as important as the knife when it comes to a utility blade
     
  10. TommyGun56

    TommyGun56 Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 29, 2014
    Here you go'
    Eric makes very good sheaths (one of the best in the industry) and we did evaluate him for this project, but given some functional and dimensional requirements for a small everyday carry fixed blade we found the best designs with Dozier. Our sheath offerings for the EDC2 will be similar to the EDC1 with a couple tweaks for increased long term durability and a different rivet. Incremental improvement rather than radical change. The Mashed Cat was very nice though. The print under a shirt, the distance it stuck out from the belt, the presentation to the hand and other small ergonomic considerations ended up being the deciding factors. Dozier has been designing sheaths for discrete comfortable carry of small knives for a long time and has it dialed in. They were close though.
     
  11. extrastout

    extrastout Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 10, 2013
    Yeah, I missed all this. The horizontal seems fine...I just don't have enough flat spots on my body for this particular knife (izula works).... horizontal on my back is not comfortable when sitting or falling on your spine
     
  12. extrastout

    extrastout Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 10, 2013
    But, can you pop the blade out with your thumb on the vertical carry?
     
  13. betzner

    betzner CenCal Coast Platinum Member

    Jan 23, 2007
    You could always heat up the sheath red hot and press it up against your body for a really nice tatoo of a sheath.:D
     
  14. TommyGun56

    TommyGun56 Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 29, 2014
    see Entry #216 this thread for info
     
  15. kurpak

    kurpak Gold Member Gold Member

    151
    Mar 31, 2008
    The vertical carry slides in smooth and seats without the needed twisting and hard thumb click of the horizontal sheath.
    More like a mashed cat as it slides in smooth and the extra kydex over the handle grips the knife with light friction.
    If you're using the blade and re-sheathing often vertical would probably be better. I prefer the horizontal as I've normally got
    something else attached to my belt at the 4 o'clock right side where a knife usually goes (pistol, bigger fixed blade:))
    Nathan's video explains the different sheaths pretty well.
     
  16. extrastout

    extrastout Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 10, 2013
    thats why I am asking, the video shows him pulling the blade out unattached with 2 hands with the vertical sheath....not popping the blade out in a more controlled manner with the thumb...I will just figure you can't pop the blade out...you have to tug it out of the sheath, then re grip higher up on the handle once you get the blade out
     
  17. Nathan the Machinist

    Nathan the Machinist KnifeMaker / Machinist / Evil Genius Moderator Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Feb 13, 2007
    The vertical sheath does not have very high retention so it drops in and pulls out with one hand no problem. To me it is similar to an old school leather sheath in that regard. The horizontal sheath has very high retention because gravity doesn't help hold it in, so it does take a thumb and a twist to get it out. They both work flawlessly with one hand and become second nature to use. Dozier has his work dialed in very well.
     
  18. extrastout

    extrastout Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 10, 2013
    I'm glad to hear this. Now the design make sense to me. Thank you Nate!
     
  19. ni1s

    ni1s

    683
    Feb 10, 2014
    AFAIK the LC have always been priced without a sheath, and the sheath optional, at least as late as January this year.
     
  20. Odog27

    Odog27 Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 20, 2011
    Are there left handed options?
     

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