DEK1

Discussion in 'Carothers Performance Knives' started by Lorien, Sep 20, 2017.

  1. madcap_magician

    madcap_magician Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 27, 2005
    I'm having trouble imagining what the swedge and penetrator tip will look like on the DEK1.
     
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  2. TRfromMT

    TRfromMT Gold Member Gold Member Basic Member

    Jan 4, 2016
    I gotta say, I thought "HOLY COW" when the FK2 came out (in comparison to the OGFK). I know it's a little apples and oranges here, but I also think the DEK1 is next level over the FK2. Just my opinion.

    The team has outdone themselves again!
     
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  3. Casinostocks

    Casinostocks Factotum Gold Member

    Mar 20, 2016
    There are 4 CPK patterns which were originally designed by Lorien: LC, FK (original), HDFK and DEK1. For each of these, Nathan seems to have poured all of his knowledge and expertise into their R&D marshaled all the way to the finished products. I am convinced that Lorien could not have found a finer and better maker to have done this much right by him making him as proud as a Nathan and CPK.
     
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  4. TRfromMT

    TRfromMT Gold Member Gold Member Basic Member

    Jan 4, 2016
    @Casinostocks yeah, I recall the FK2 was a Carothers reinterpretation, of sorts. I am being a little simplistic in saying the Team, meaning the genius, the elves, mama, and the designer. No one was left out in my simple term. They all crushed it!!
     
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  5. Lorien

    Lorien KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Dec 5, 2005
    you're right, (although you left out arguably my best- the EDC:eek:). If I had the choice of working with only one cutlery company, regardless of size or type, if would be Nate and Jo's company. Mostly because I trust and like them very much

    a huge benefit of working with such a skilled machinist is that I can count on just about any shape I can imagine becoming real. There are few limits to what shapes a CNC machine can produce. With the right mind behind it

    I feel like we're just scratching the surface. We can bring handle design further and further, producing some extremely innovative and unique products as I become more proficient, and CPK becomes more optimized. The shop reshuffle will bring things to another level

    that's just that stuff, though. The thing I like most about what CPK does is create only high performance knives- arguably the most high performance knives on the market. I can think of no other company that prioritizes every aspect of a knife's performance more than CPK, including the sheaths which are also very carefully considered and well made
     
  6. Casinostocks

    Casinostocks Factotum Gold Member

    Mar 20, 2016
    ^ major mental block on the EDC because the idea behind the handle's modeling still haunts me! A very harrowing tale :p
     
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  7. xxwarderxx

    xxwarderxx Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 27, 2015
    If Lorien was the inspiration for the EDC handle, it makes you wonder who the K18 handle was modeled after :eek:
     
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  8. Nathan the Machinist

    Nathan the Machinist KnifeMaker / Machinist / Evil Genius Moderator Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Feb 13, 2007


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    One of the CPK crew. See if you can guess who.
     
  9. TRfromMT

    TRfromMT Gold Member Gold Member Basic Member

    Jan 4, 2016
    What I like about the EDC / FK / FK2 / DEK1 / HDFK is it is not simply a regurgitation of one knife with a 3.5, 4, 4.5, 5 and 6 inch blade. Too many knife companies get away with just stretching or shrinking blade length and calling it a day. The CPK lineup are clearly in the same heritage, but they are all so uniquely developed!
     
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  10. Grenock

    Grenock Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Apr 7, 2016
    Hilarious, couldn’t be a better pic for that punchline.
     
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  11. TommyGun56

    TommyGun56 Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 29, 2014
    Thanks Bo:thumbsup:
     
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  12. Odog27

    Odog27 Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 20, 2011
    Bo?!?!?
    Look at the mitts on the Abominable Mark!
    You know what they say, “Big hands - big...


    ...handle????
     
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  13. Grenock

    Grenock Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Apr 7, 2016
    I’ll now and forever be referring to it as the B18, and probably wear gloves whenever I pick it up.......
     
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  14. Casinostocks

    Casinostocks Factotum Gold Member

    Mar 20, 2016
    Whoever the inspiration, Nathan's own dome, it's synapses and neurons are responsible for the heir (K18) and the spare (BD). Now a gratuitous picture to prove my point:

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  15. Box_Opener

    Box_Opener Gold Member Gold Member

    142
    Aug 21, 2018
    Hey, so... what is a “penetrator tip” vs a swedge? I’m guessing The length of the added plane is longer on a swedge?

    edit: I don’t intend to change the design by adding either, I just want to know.
     
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  16. HKP7K3

    HKP7K3 Gold Member Gold Member

    47
    Jul 15, 2017
    I envision the penetrator tip having a similar grind to this Bob Lum Tanto. I like the aesthetics on a tanto, and wanted to go with it on the DEK but wasn’t brave enough. I’d love to see one done up and photos shared.

    you can fast forward about halfway to get a nice view of the tip.
     
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  17. SwarthyGnome

    SwarthyGnome Gold Member Gold Member Basic Member

    231
    Nov 1, 2018
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    I think this is a penetrator tip on the Shiv. tiny versus a longer swedge option? Hopefully Nathan will weigh in.
     
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  18. Grenock

    Grenock Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Apr 7, 2016
    Penetrator tip on a BCer......it also has a swedge
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    image stolen from a sales thread from a few weeks back, not mine.
     
  19. Grenock

    Grenock Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Apr 7, 2016
    Penetrator tip and swedge on an FK2 ......courtesy of brother Nystagmus
    Should give you an idea what it would look like on a DEK1 given the similarities of the blade on both knives.
     
  20. HKP7K3

    HKP7K3 Gold Member Gold Member

    47
    Jul 15, 2017
    I was way off! I like this tip. Keeps integrity of tip intact but makes a little more pointy.
     
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